Let me start off by saying something that may make some of you spit your drink at the screen but……I don’t like JJ Abrams. I didn’t like Lost, Fringe or any of the films that have had his name on the poster. I could go into detail why but that is for another article.
So when it was announced that he was taking the helm of the Star Trek franchise, my initial reaction was to break into a cold sweat and hyperventilate. Ive always been a huge fan of Star Trek and to read that JJ Abrams (who quite openly said he didn’t like Star Trek) was in the directors chair, well it was very worrying.
When I saw the film, to my surprise I did enjoy it and I understood why some of the drastic changes were made in order to make it more appealing to a mainstream audience. BUT that didn’t excuse some of the major errors that had me ranting on the train ride home.
So here are my top five things that I’m hoping they fix in the next Star Trek film, currently unnamed, which is currently filming for a release in May 2013.
1. Science
Star Trek has always had ‘’believable’’ science incorporated into the show. The endless techno babble made you believe that whatever problem they were facing, it could be solved by ‘’reversing the polarity of the flow sensors’’ or by ‘’firing a tachyon beam.’’ You didn’t know what they were and it didn’t matter because in Star Trek it made sense, it worked and it was ‘’believable.’’ Even in Star Trek III: The Search for Spock when it was announced that the Genesis Device that created habitable planets from nothing was a failure due to ‘’proto-matter’’ being used in its matrix, you went along with it as being perfectly plausible even though you have no idea what proto-mater is.
The problem in the JJ Abrams directed Star Trek film is that they decided to play around with science that has been established as fact and for some strange reason make it totally unbelievable.
The perfect example of this is the supernova that destroys Romulas in the film. At one point Spock says the supernova threatened to ‘’destroy the galaxy.’’ Supernovas are big but they are not that big and certainly there is no way it could destroy a whole galaxy. Most people know that a supernova occurs when giant stars explode, that doesn’t have to be explained. But then asking people to believe that a single supernova is a threat to the other hundred billion stars that make up the Milky Way is a stretch too far. It makes no sense and takes you away from the plot of the film.
And don’t get me started on the ‘’Red Matter’’!??!
So I’m hoping that they consult with an actual scientist at some point in the development of the film and make the science fiction plausible so that you don’t sit there thinking WTF!
2. Engine Room
Some of the last film was shot on location in a Budweiser factory. That is why some bits of the ship looked like a……factory. This was at odds with the sleek design of the exterior but you went with it to some extent. One place it didn’t work though was the engine room.
The engine room has always been easily identifiable on any ship. Also it being the future you would expect it to look futuristic, but for some reason on this ship, they went with the option of making it look like the engine room on a steam ship. You had vents and pipes, leavers, valves and running water.
When I first saw it in the cinema, I thought that as well as making sure the ships warp drive was working like it should, the engineers also had to ferment coke for the crew to drink and to do that they brought along a fully functioning Coca Cola factory. It was later that I found out that it was actually filmed in a Budweiser factory and that’s what those giant silos and pipes were. So please don’t be lazy and design a proper engine room!
3. Spock & Uhura’s Relationship
My eyes are rolling so far back as I write this, I’m worried I might hurt myself so ill keep this bit brief. I found watching Spock and Uhura kissing to be a bit like watching your uncle kiss your mother, a bit sickly and unnecessary. It didn’t add anything of value to the film, it was unbelievable and I wasn’t the only one who let out a deep sigh when they started getting off with each other.
So I’m hoping they have a falling out in the next film. Especially as this Spock came across as such a jerk in this film, you kept thinking, what exactly attracted Uhura to him in the first place? Maybe it was Uhura’s plan to use Spock to get posted on the Enterprise. She was very quick to play that card when she realized she was going to be serving USS Farragut instead of the USS Enterprise early on in the film.
4. Old School Mannerisms
We all loved Karl Urban as Dr McCoy. It was great to see him eerily channel Deforest Kelly through his performance and keep everything that made Bones so loveable in the first place. Some of the best moments in the film were when he was on screen. The same needs to be done by Chris Pine with Kirk and Zachary Quinto with Spock.
I’m not saying that they should do a full blown impression of Shatner and Nimoy but they need to incorporate some of the mannerisms that made Kirk and Spock, Kirk and Spock. These characters have been developed over the past 45 years and you expect them to behave in a certain way. Taking alternative realities and the fact that they are younger into consideration, it still would be nice to see Shatner and Nimoy echo through their performance. A good starting point for Chris Pine would be to be a little less shouty and Quinto needs to stop smirking.
5. Soundtrack
All the Star Trek films always had the benefit of having very memorable soundtracks. This has been mainly down to the talents of Jerry Goldsmith and James Horner but even when they took a risk with the unknown Cliff Eidleman for Star Trek VI, it still paid off and that film has one of the best music from any Star Trek movie.
Michael Giacchino did an ok job but as with most modern soundtracks, it quickly sunk into bland orchestral blah music after the admittedly rousing main theme. Cliff Eidleman showed that you can produce something quite special even if you lack the experience but you have to take a risk. There is nothing worse than having to watch action scene 127 with bland orchestral music over the top. Giacchino’s music for the scenes on Vulcan incorporated lots of Chinese instruments, which rather than sounding alien and mysterious, just sounded a bit weird. Compare that to James Horner’s Vulcan tracks on the Star Trek III soundtrack where you immediately get a sense of wonder and grandeur. Giacchino’s soundtrack does the basic job of providing a soundtrack and it seems like a wasted opportunity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgCjdnJcMS8
It may sound like I hated the film but there is a lot I liked about it but you can’t ignore what was wrong it. I’m hoping the story is better developed this time round as there is no writer’s strike to blame, but recent reports that the film began shooting with an unfinished script are worrying.
It’s understandable that to bring in a new audience, you have to turn up the action and ‘’sexiness’’ but that doesn’t mean you have to remove the elements that make good Star Trek. The way Nicolas Meyer did a complete U-turn for the better with Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan after the first film’s critical failure is a perfect example of keeping a good balance and that film still holds up as the best in the series.
Still we can’t wait for May 2013 and to see where Abrams boldly takes us this time!
Note: Also make sure you check out our ‘5 Things We Expect J.J. Abrams’ Star Trek 2 To Have‘ article from last year.
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31 Comments
I didn’t like the Star Trek movie for all the reasons you mentioned and more. But mainly the core concept that everything in the television shows and movies have been completely erased. I’ll not be watching any other movies in the franchise. (BTW, I like Abrams’ work, especially the new show: Alcatraz.
i liked uhura n spock reletioship, also the acting from Anton Yelchin was ace as Pavel Chekov… also the hole time thing was wank but still a fun movie film xxx
Your ridiculous. Everything was perfect. Roddenberry isn’t directing so it IS going to be different. Plus, it needs to be able to appeal to ALL audiences ALL age groups. Not just Trekkies. Leonard Nimoy himself loved the film and was extremely involved in it. Therefore, your opinion is simply just a waste of time and energy.
I wasted my time and energy reading it. So, take your nonexistent writing skills and go boldy where no one has gone before Like a black hole. Soundtrack was
INCREDIBLE. Reason it got an Oscar for it.
Oh, btw. J.J Abrams would never listen to your bias and prejudice. Not even consider it. He is professional and knows what he is doing. Hence the hundred millions of dollars the first star trek made.
Ur just wrong sir!!! Why must a film appeal to everyone? n all age groups? Star Trek is not Disney? or Star Wars? or that horrible thing called Avatar!
Just cos it got awards or everyone liked it means nothing at all!!!
Sure there is change but there’s also routes…
and before this J.J. Abrams wrote horrendous like lost!!!
and maybe you should go to that island too if you don’t like others having opinions and you can run away from polar bears in a tropical forest!!!
Good day to you Sir.
I thought I’d offer some insight on the Spock/Uhura thing. They put those scenes in there for the ladies, because we LOVE him. Spock is smoking hot and every girl wants to crack his shell. Uhura is attracted to him because he is smart, handsome, kind, and intense, not because she needed an in on the Enterprise (bribery/favoritism is illogical anyways). Just because you’re a Spirk fan doesn’t mean you need to be mean to Uhura.
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Believable science, like trilithum y’all! And ~warp engines~!
Warp engines are the actually the believable part. Trek started out with the ships being powered by dilithium (I suppose a homage to nuclear power) – then that evolved to antimatter/matter (believable) that both regulated the reaction (like control rods) and shifted the EM to something usable by their power systems (increasing efficiency). Something would need to serve this purpose – it just seems like they could do this with a matrix of carbon nanotubes or something along those lines. It just seems implausible that a mined crystal would have the necessary precision for such a role.
I enjoyed the film very much, but you do bring up a couple of great points. I think that now they’ve appealed to a wide audience with a simpler “Star Wars” type plot, they can start bringing some more science fiction elements into it…and more of a humanistic theme. That was what I missed the most (I actually loved the music and the Spock/Uhura relationship – nice to see her doing something besides patching through calls and fawning over tribbles).
And you can’t expect the main actors to impersonate the original players to the fans’ satisfaction. That’s their prerogative (along with the director), and if they just suddenly start to do Shatner/Nimoy impressions, it’ll be jarring and unnatural. I think with the characters maturing, a natural and familiar rhythm will settle in.
Wow. I uniformly disagree with you on everything (except perhaps the first one). Not often that happens. If you were watching Spock and Uruha and you found it uncomfortable, or you were unimpressed with the soundtrack, then I can’t help but feel like you’re hankering for the old films. Even the Budweiser factory bit goes along with this – I have no idea why people whine about that one. I think it was a cool, plausible set and it didn’t take me out of the film even slightly. Let go of it. These films are a new thing.
Thanks to everyone for their comments.
@Jane. Both Trillithium and Warp Engines are far more believable in a science fiction setting than the rather ambiguous ”Red Matter” that is used in JJ’s Star Trek.
When they mention Trillithium is a compound that can stop fusion in a star, you can imagine that once its deployed it stops hydrogen atoms from fusing together and creating helium and in turn causing the star to collapse. You can see how a warp engine works with the warp core that contains the dilithium crystals and how it connects to the nacelles and they generate a warp bubble around the ship that folds space. Its all explained and in science fiction, perfectly plausible.
But in the case of Red Matter, one minute it makes a black hole that takes you to the past, then it causes a planet to collapse in on its self and then it creates a black hole that destroys you when you enter it. You could say that it is unpredictable but we all know its being used as a lazy plot device. They could have just said ”get that stuff that does that thing” and let the audience fill in the blanks for themselves. Also, it seems strange that you only need a drop of Red Matter to do what it does but for some reason they sent enough Red Matter to create a billion black holes in a one man, un protected ship to go deliver this in the path of a supernova explosion. If this stuff is so dangerous, you wouldn’t want to send so much of it because it could cause you more problems than it solves.
But it didn’t matter because it was a lazy plot device to make things happen. Its annoying because with a few lines in a script it could have been explained and made plausible with a bit of thought but either the writers didn’t care or they couldn’t think of anything and that was detrimental to the film. Its sad as its so easily fixable with a bit of imagination.
@WOW. If Oscars were in anyway an indicator of quality, films like Avatar would be ignored and Robocop and Total Recall would be rolling in Academy awards.
Agree with all your points. One thing that bothers me more than anything is Quinto as young Nimoy. Something about it is just wrong. They’re like oil and water.
I am not a Trek fan at all, but have always enjoyed JJ Abrams output (even Lost with its shamefully inept ending). Which is why I gave the new movie a go. I enjoyed the film and have to say that your writers’ comments that the two leads should somehow channel Shatner and Nimoy is a bit ridiculous. By that logic, no one would ever see a remake or go to a play – because its not the first actor to play a particular role. So every actor playing Bond should channel Connery? (actually, maybe not such a bad idea…). No, each actor should find their own space in the role – and I think it takes more than one movie to do that. Props also to fellow Aussie Eric Bana who I thought made a great villian! And one thing that WOULD improve the new film – stop it with all the “glimmering” going on in the first flick! Am I the only one that was distracted by the fact that every move of the camera caused something to glint, glimmer or lens flare all the time? Maybe its some cool directorial signature or something, but it happened way too often! OK, pointless rant over! I look forward to the Abrams Trek number 2, not as a Trek fan, but a film fan.
The lens flaring and glimmering were definitely done on purpose…if you rent the DVD and watch the special feature called “a new vision” that is explained by Abrams…among many other really cool movie making techniques he used to make the movie seem more “real” than cgi which I for one really appreciated
Totally agree with the critique of the music. Giachinno’s stuff was totally forgettable and really took me out of the film.
They should have gotten Dennis McCarthy or pulled rank on Abrams and brought in a better composer.
I for one am totally uninterested in whatever Abrams plans to do. I made the mistake of letting people tell me, “Don’t judge it til you try it.” Well I did, and I wished I hadn’t!
I’m skipping Star Trek 2. One waste of money is more than enough.
What I couldn’t understand in the movie was that after going back in time, why didn’t Nero just warn his people that their sun was going to go supernova in the future, instead of going on a killing spree ? That would have saved his planet.
Because Nero couldn’t grasp that he went back in time…he didn’t care about anything or anyone but Revenge. Revenge is his motive, he was not a rational being.It didn’t matter “what” Vulcan it was, just that it was vulcan.
Neil has it right. This is just one of the more horrible aspects of this turkey of a movie. Please find some of the web sites dedicated to (correctly) dissing this awful movie. Again, I won’t repeat all of the problems, because others have pointed them out quite ably. I too will not be subjecting myself to the ridiculous ‘path’ that JJ has hijacked Star Trek to.
The Romulans could have evacuated Romulas when they first found out about the Supernova as a precaution, just in case the crazy plan envolving Red Matter didn’t work.
I agree somewhat with your first point. I actually didn’t have a problem with the red matter. I had no problem with Spock and Uhura. It was believable. The music wasn’t bad, just forgettable. I would like to see a little more of Shatner’s Kirk show up in Pine’s version. I was actually quite pleased with Quinto’s Spock.
Ok. First off — The science here is just as believable as any other in Star Trek cannon, as like LOST and Fringe use cycle cosmology theories of the likes of Stephen HAWKING and Sir Roger PENROSE to create iterations of realities. Star Trek has several alternate realities…There’s the big polar opposite “Mirror Universe” (all series), There’s a Temporal Cold War full of time travel and like Lost, Fringe, and Abrams Star Trek full of casualty loops, In Generations we get awareness to multiple parallel universes…J.J. took what was already there, and what Bad Robot already uses in Star Trek.
Bad Robot are pro humanism and empiricism, and thus the point to create an ALTERNATE reality is to explore identity through comparative existences. Who are we? And to use something like a new time line gives us an oppertunity to see what holds true from one timeline to the next (like having a baby) and what has the possibility to change (evolution).
I Think you do not like Bad Robot because you miss or do not value the point of their works.
additionally J.J. has explained on a Star Trek Extra the value of “reciprocity” in which some theorist believe that man creating alternate timeline, by using black holes and variable displacement, may require the new time line to balance out the differences…presenting a type of course corrector, axiom, or ‘fate’ in said relative universes. –This is why Vulcan is gone, because Romulas is gone -it’s “tit for tat” in making up the differences.
I should also add that “red” substances is also one of Bad Robots repeating MOs (alias – muller devise “red” ball, Fringe- “red” memory seum)). In fact Blue and Red are often trade marks along with several other things
Thanks for your comment Laura.
I actually finished reading Stephen Hawking’s The Grand Design only yesterday. Very good book which covered some of what you mentioned in your post.
I had no problem with the alternate timeline device they used in the film. I think it’s a very good idea and it gives the writers a chance to genuinely do something different instead of ”rebooting/reimagining” the stories that have already been told. You have the characters that you love but they can now take a different path. I also agree with you that alternative realities is a common theme in Star Trek and it has been explored many times in the various series.
I also dont have a problem with the idea of the universe trying to correct itself. It would make it easier to explain the bizarre decision taken by Quinto-Spock to jettison Kirk onto an ice moon where he just happens to bump into Nimoy-Spock in a cave where he has just watched Vulcan be destroyed from what im assuming must be a moon of Vulcan, even though it has been established that Vulcan has no moon. It would also explain why he is hiding out in a cave instead of heading to the Starfleet base which he know is near by.
I have no problem with anything you have said concerning this. In fact, I wish all these themes had been developed in the script so that any gaping plot holes where covered. It would have made a much more interesting and intelligent film.
But instead they rolled out this Red Matter which seems to be the equivalent of a space swiss army knife….it does whatever you want it to and screw the details. They wanted you to believe that a Supernova was going to destroy the whole galaxy??? Link that with the other lazy points in the script such as a villain that is so angry, that he stays angry for 25 years, instead of doing the sensible thing and heading to Romulas and warning them of the impending danger. And Starfleet where there is no logical progression in promotion….I could go on but my point is that if they are so lazy with the basic details in the script, im not going to believe that they cleverly incorporated the theories of Stephen Hawking and I didn’t get it.
The ‘science’ in this movie is beyond horrible. This harkens back to TOS ‘The Alternative Factor’ for bogus science. Weak, stupid, writing. Period.
I think even if we don’t understand red matter, it doesn’t matter…I mean in LOST we have a cryogenic chamber with exotic matter that seems to work with the electromagnetic pockets creating cold fusion and ‘the preservation of humanity’ (life extension) on every level…those things weren’t exactly spelled out, nor are those things even easy to explain, isnce it too is science fiction, but I think because it’s science fiction, and we think about how the facts change all the time about physics and the universe, that it’s not hard to believe that a type of unknown red and/or exotic matter could be made and used in that fashion. It’s more plausible IMO because it is Vulcans who have that technology…they have always been ahead of humanity from the very beginning. (Star Trek Enterprise) So for me it’s totally acceptable.
^Hitler could have done the right thing too if he wasn’t brought up to believe such things, if certain things didn’t happen to him…but Revenge is something that does cause people to do deplorable things, and sometimes SO passionately that they will wait till they can launch a specific plot. Make Spock watch while his [alternate] planet get’s destroyed. Nero lost his whole life, his wife and child.
In Fringe the first presented red Walternate could have stopped his hate too, but he didn’t –his rage, despite he had a grandson and that his son was alive, wasn’t enough, he still wanted to destroy the blue universe. –Bad Robot has characters that seemingly parallel other characters all the time. Star Trek is something that defenately is referenced in Fringe as well (The Road Not Taken) –The season 4 timeline gives Peter an opportunity to have a different relationship with another Walternate…
You’re right. This kinda did make me… a tad irritated at first.
I completely agree about Spock and Uhura. That was just weird. About the mannerisms, Kirk at least grew up under just about completely different circumstances. Although he is the same “person” as Shatner’s version he isn’t really. It’s understandable that there would only be a shadow of those mannerisms, even if the more base parts of that character are there. And the soundtrack. Have you ever watched the movie with a good pair of headphones. Oh. My. God. It might be because I’m a bit of a music geek, but it was almost… the only word I can think of is orgasmic.
This movie got me into Star Trek and, for that, I’ll probably always love it. One thing about this article that I absolute 100% loved was the fact that you didn’t mention the flares. I see that all the time in other articles and it irritates me because I thought it made it better. All and all, it was a better article than I thought it would be after the first paragraph!
I agree with just about everything. Specifically the engine room. It still bothers me now when I watch. While I understand that they wanted an industrial feel, it just didn’t work. I also agree that they need to get their sciences worked out better.
@Wow….get your head out of your a**. They can still make it appealing to everyone and satisfy its core audience. Its all about balance and they still need to find it. I don’t expect everything the same but I don’t want to sell out to the idea that the audience is a bunch of morons. A movie be smart and have eye candy at the same time.
I keep asking myself, Why didn’t Abrams hire Mike Okuda to check his continuity? Or anybody for that matter, that was actually familiar with the canon. It was a big budget movie and they couldn’t hire a consultant to tighten up the plot for the trekies.
I think behind the scenes Abrams and the other higher up folks at Paramount had a good laugh at the trekies, by not bothering to deal with the continuity errors. I just don’t undertsand how all this happened, especially in an age when directors release “special directors cut” editions with all the nerdy stuff (like Watchmen for example). Trekies didn’t even get that bone thrown to them.
However with all this, I was thinking that we should just consider the Abrams Star Trek the “Mirror Universe” told as revisionist history. Once the Abrams version is no longer “Hot Stuff” hopefully a writer knowledgeable about “canon” can come along and upend the whole story and say, “well, that was the Mirror Universe and nobody told you so at the time”. BTY, I was influenced to this idea on another board.
My point is, we should just accept this universe to be the mirror universe of the Terran Empire. It makes all the continuity issues more tolerable:
1) This would explain why the USS Relativity doesn’t show up to fix the timeline. Because it’s the mirror universe and the future Federation doesn’t care about what happens in the Mirror Universe timeline.
2) This would explain why there is no George Samuel Kirk. The Mirror Kirk may not have had a brother in the Mirror Universe, so he is essentially George, but is named Jim due to the destruction of the USS Kelvin and early death of his father Lt Kirk. It also explains why he is such a trouble maker without conscience, unlike the original Captain Kirk. Mirror Kirks background was never discussed, so to a certain degree anything goes.
4) This would also explain why Uhura and Spock have a relationship. This Mirror Spock doesn’t care about his bond with T’pring and with the destruction of Vulcan she dies anyway. Not the best explanation in the world, but its better than just outright ignoring the Amok Time episode.
3) Why does Pike not get court martialed for doing such a poor job defending the planet Vulcan and directing the Federation fleet? Because he is an officer of the Terran Empire, not the Federation. To some degree the Terran Empire doesn’t care otherwise, whether Vulcan survives or not. Since the Romulan Empire is independent in the Mirror Universe, the issue of defeating a new powerful Romulan Ship is a more pressing matter than saving Vulcan.
4) It would also explain why the USS Kelvin looks so weird. The design of the Kelvin that we see in the Abrams film could have been influenced by the appearance of the more advanced Constitution class USS Defiant, which appeared in Tholian space during the time of Captain Archer from the Terran Empire, not the Federation. This could explain the earlier diversion of the timeline that precedes Nero and Narada and makes everything so radically different (i.e. technology differences, earlier ecounters with the Cardassians and the existance of nokia)
I think it will be cake for writers to retcon this version of Star Trek in the future. If the Tholians could open a gateway into an alternate future universe, then the Red stuff that Spock was using could do the same effect into the past. In fact this timeline could be an attempt by the Terran Slave resistance to keep the Terran Empire from losing power to the Alliance with the assistance by maniputating the time line in the Mirror Universe behind the scenes.
the movie did indeed suck cocks in hell
they made it into a dumb stupid insulting dumb summer blockerbuster movie(dumb) with only the name in common in the rest of star trek
science fiction with bad /no science
action scenes that are confusingly shot and impossible to make out
reconnning the entire timeline rather than just do a galactica style reboot
(truly the worst of both worlds)
the budweiser factory that looked just like a budweiser factory
some one in the cinema said to me why do they have concerete floor on a space ship?why indeed
or the product placement nokia and ,shocker, budweiser pop up and were supposed to suspend our disbelif?
(even more obvious and apauling than the shoe advert will smith did in i am legend)
im amazed they did hold the products up to the camera and smile for a couple of minutes
to sum up the film was a bad film
made by bad people who dont care about anything they do
and it shows
This movie was abysmal. I won’t go into the legion of details why, because it has already been succinctly put in the grave in multiple web sites, but this abomination was so horrible, that Leonard Nimoy can call me a dickhead, in public, from now until the cows come home and I will not waiver. I have zero intention of seeing how badly JJ will further take the franchise into the toilet with the next ‘movie’, but if the hints at who the antagonist is are true, I’m already laughing my butt off.