The festive season has come and passed, leaving us with a myriad of things; me beginning blog posts with adjusted Green Day lyrics; socks from our uncle who we are now starting to believe truly does not like us; socks from our mum who we believe still loves us, but just can’t be bothered to try anymore; and trailers for the two biggest films to come in 2012. Both got fan boys dribbling onto their home made costumes made of moms old cereal boxes; both look like they could redefine cinema; both have got me using too many semi-colons; both have got me comparing them to see which looks better. The lucky devils.
The timing of this blog may seem suspect, however luckily for me people are so desperate to avoid the predictable Awards season and Leonardo DiCaprio not winning an Oscar for the billionth time that they will rejoice in discussing two of the finest made trailers in recent memory. Or criticising me in the comments section; whichever way you want to take it.
Although these films are an embodiment of what people say is wrong with cinema (A prequel and a sequel) the quality of what came before has amped these films to the status of potential era defining movies; no pressure then…
The Dark Knight Rises
This trailer has everything that a good trailer needs; enigma, action set pieces and a degree of epicness so large that you can’t help but feel how you did when you were 13 years old and you saw Kylie Minogue’s video for ‘I Can’t Get You Out Of My Head’. (For those unfamiliar, please view it here; before SOPA stops you from doing so: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c18441Eh_WE&ob=av2e )
The uprising scenes are chilling, the implications of social commentary (“There’s a storm coming Mr. Wayne, and when it does you will wonder how it is you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us.” AND The destruction of an American tradition, Football, shown whilst a child is singing the national anthem, the metaphor is clear) Are current, impacting and will bring out the idealist communist in all of us come viewing time.
Then there’s the action, expertly cut with every action films favourite method (2 second image, cut to black, 2 second image, dramatic music, blah blah blah) and the destruction of the stadium. An image so cool it made me want to take up American Football and explosive experimentation, just so I could go to heaven and say ‘Yeah. I died like that.’
However, there are a few issues…
First being that the trailer is deliriously messy, with a middle sequence that just flashes from character to character without highlighting their relevance. The inclusions of Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Marion Cotillard are enigmatic and interesting, but in this trailer it just seems selfish, like Christopher Nolan is saying to Hollywood ‘NO! You can’t have them! They are mine! They were in Inception! I OWN them! Look, they are in MY trailer! Ha!’ and don’t give them any purpose.
The attempts of emotional impact by getting every ones favourite character, Alfred, to talk about how precious Bruce is to him is touching, if a bit heavy handed and sudden, doing little but highlighting that Bruce has had little to no emotional development since 30 minutes in to Batman Begins whilst Nolan spent The Dark Knight making a laboured point.
And finally, it has to be mentioned, Bane’s voice. Despite rumours that Warner Bros. Are going to have it cleaned up in post-prod, it doesn’t change the fact that for now: it’s difficult to understand. I got what he was saying on the second watch, which is fine for a trailer, but for a 2 ½ hour film it will get difficult, unless this is actually a marketing scheme and making Tom Hardy do his ‘intense preparation’ of pouring gravel down his throat and gargling with it for 8 hours a day so that no audience member can understand him is just a trick to get us to pay to see the film a second time when we will actually be able to follow what is going on.
If you are the one person on the planet who has not yet seen The Dark Knight Rises trailer, you can do so below;
Trailer rating: 4/5
Verdict: Enigmatic, big, powerful, borderline self important and a potential for ‘too many characters, too much of a mess.’ But an excellent trailer for what could be the defining film of our generation.
The Hobbit
So, it’s back, the series that set the standard for what The Dark Knight Rises is trying to achieve (i.e Not make a threequel that makes us want to cry and hold a copy of the first two), with a predictable prequel. It was naive of people who loved the original trilogy to not expect The Hobbit to one day grace our screens eventually and here it is. All pristine, shiny and, by the looks of the trailer, has the same colourful whimsy that the first three had.
Nostalgic shots of The Shire and the originals terrific score makes for delightful viewing with Peter Jackson not changing his style of film making for anyone (50% of this films budget was spent on helicopter fuel. I’m telling you.) which would do the predecessors a discredit, this trailer oozes Lord of the Rings, and it looks beautiful because of it.
The beginning of the trailer is a little slow but when it gets to about 30 seconds in and the dwarfs start singing in a sequence which resembles what the most disturbing of Little People of America meetings would be like the trailer kicks into its groove, giving delicate hints to the story and amping up the tension.
If anything this trailer is good at getting you in to the Lord of the Rings mood, the music, the setting, Martin Freeman as a (perfect) Bilbo Baggins, if not doing what TDKR does and wowing us into submission which is both brilliant and bad. This clearly redirects us from the first three which were huge action and story epics involving all the races of middle earth it clearly shifts the focus to that of The Hobbits, and matches the tone of the calm beginning to The Fellowship of the Ring, it’s nice, but not stunning.
The beginning of this trailer shares the same difficulty as the middle section of TDKR, it’s a bit messy and plays out like a ‘Who’s who of the dwarfing world’, where you would like a focus on the narrative for those of us who haven’t read the book, not keep the same feeling of nostalgia and introduction for parts we aren’t that familiar with.
However, my biggest issue with the trailer is the ominous way they treat Bilbo ‘Can you promise I will come back?’ ‘…No.’ It’s dramatic…It’s intense…It’s full of us not knowing what will happen…Oh wait. Bilbo is in The Fellowship and Return of the King. What’s all the fuss about silly dwarves? He will be fine! Oh my how you will laugh when you get to the end and everything is ok. Silly Hobbitsis.
All in all you can’t feel that this film is going to be a little hollow if the main threat throughout is whether Bilbo might die. We KNOW he doesn’t. Of course we can’t blame the film for the fact that it is being given to us in the wrong order, but we can bitterly resent Hollywood politics which means this film is being made after the more financially viable others. Despite the order in which they were written.
The Hobbit trailer…
Rating: 3/5
Verdict: Packed with nostalgia and a terrific ode to the beautiful Hobbiton, but a little messy with (so far) a narrative that doesn’t promise an ending we already know. Oh, Gandalf and Galadriel, what on earth is that about?
What’s Your Verdict?
The Dark Knight Rises or The Hobbit trailer? Which one worked its magic more on you?
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28 Comments
I’m going with The Hobbit. Its gonna be a much better movie as well.
Clearly written by a Nolan fanboy who doesn’t even note the crucial difference in the marketing purposes of both clips: TDKR’s the official trailer that is supposed to at least sketch out the major plot; The Hobbit’s the TEASER that is only supposed to give us a hint of what’s to come which it does brilliantly.
Don’t understand the worship for Nolan’s Batman films. Heath Ledger’s Joker performance made the second one fantastic but the first one was boring, tedious and terrible. Hopefully there will be the spark that Ledger gave because it’s not there in the trailer.
Matt I don’t think you have a fucking clue what you are talking about.Do you even know the difference between your arse and your elbow?
Just saying.
I personally thought the first Batman film was better than the second. Which, once you get past Ledger’s performance, is slow and meanders around Nolan’s need to put an over the top point in his movies. It’s a good 30 minutes too long, I didn’t like Inception the first time I watched it.
Hardly the attitude of a Nolan fan boy?
I just think out of these two trailers, TDKR looks a hell of a lot better. There.
Ian Holm and Elijah Wood are reprising there roles as a framing device. Obviously, it will be known from the outset that he survives. I think that part was more to set up the line “if you do, you won’t be the same”. Also, in 20 years time, its probable young people will be watching The Hobbit before The Lord of the Rings.
Also, Peter Jackson and co. didn’t have the rights to the Hobbit film back then. He did want to make it first, but couldn’t. Bit harsh.
There will be people who compare The Hobbit only to the Lord of the Rings, which is unfortunate as there are completely different in style, but to me, I’m sure it will be great.
Yeah, that line was obviously just in there to establish the connection to the ring and his character arc. And the line from Thorin establishes the tricky relationship between Bilbo and the dwarves. I don’t think the knowledge of Bilbo’s survival is particularly detrimental to the story- there is so much other stuff going on. And don’t forget that just because it’s called The Hobbit and is told from Bilbo’s perspective it isn’t all about him- it is, after all, the dwarves’ quest and the fates of Thorin and Co. should create more than enough tension.
Pretty ridiculous article. Comparing two unrelated trailers for two totally unrelated movies? I could understand comparing say, Dark Knight with the new Spiderman. But this? How strange.
And Dark Knight Rises, “the defining film of our generation”?! I’d be prepared to lay down a bet that it’s as awkward, clunky, and overwritten as everything else Nolan has ever done.
Biggest two blockbusters next year, not really a ridiculous choice of comparison.
So you’re betting against The Avengers eh? Just an observation.
Not betting against it. I don’t think it has the following of Batman (Batman has had spin offs going for 50 years, The Avengers heroes are all relatively new to the normal cinema goer without a devote interest in comic books).
Also The LOTR trilogy and Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are better than all the pre- Avengers films, multiplied by 20, then by one another. Marvel films all look the same and tell a very similar story in a very similar way. They are just dull, X-Men 2 and Iron Man are the only real stand out Marvel films I’ve seen.
I don’t think audiences will ignore the fact that the build up to The Avengers have been a string of films that promised a lot, but did very little.
If I had to go for a blockbuster success list it would be:
The Dark Knight Rises
The Hobbit
The Avengers
The Amazing Spider-Man
Prometheus
(Feel free to throw out any others I may have missed)
Get out from your mama’s basement & do better then since his movies aren’t hard to top.
What’s this? ‘WhatCulture in opting for Batman above another film shocker’? The Dark Knight Rises the ‘defining film of our generation’? Exaggerate much?
As someone said, The Hobbit is a teaser trailer. Watch the original LOTR Trilogy teaser. The aim isn’t a coherent narrative – merely to build anticipation.
The last part of the trailer is clearly not hinting that Bilbo will die, but that, as Gandalf says, he will not be the same (i.e. that he will come into possession of the ring). That fact you’re among those idiots interpreting the Galadriel/Gandalf scene as something romantic sums it up.
You’re 19. With the deepest respect, you had to be old enough to appreciate LOTR at the time to ‘get’ the anticipation for The Hobbit. People have been waiting 9 years for this. We’ve had two Batman films in that time, the last being released only 4 years ago.
By the way, this part makes no sense. Your writing is atrocious:
‘This clearly redirects us from the first three which were huge action and story epics involving all the races of middle earth it clearly shifts the focus to that of The Hobbits, and matches the tone of the calm beginning to The Fellowship of the Ring, it’s nice, but not stunning.’
‘This clearly redirects us from the first three which were huge action and story epics involving all the races of middle earth it clearly shifts the focus to that of The Hobbits, and matches the tone of the calm beginning to The Fellowship of the Ring, it’s nice, but not stunning.’
I’m saying that there is a tonal shift similar to that of the opening of the first movie, more so than the darker and more grand parts two and three. Excuse any confusion.
Mate I get what you’re trying to say, but the punctuation is either wrong or non-existent so it reads poorly.
@Luke, I wouldn’t say TDKR would be in the top two blockbusters of the year. The Hobbit, deffo but you’ve got The Avengers, The Bourne Legacy and Django Unchained. I gotta say the past two Batman movies have got to be the most overrated movies of the decade. Don’t get me wrong I do like them but the hype surrounding the past three Nolan movies is beyond ridiculous.
If you look purely on numbers, The Dark Knight and Return of the King both grossed over a billion, more than any of the prequels to the other big blockbusters. This stands to reason that they will be two of the biggest blockbusters.
I agree about The Avengers going to be huge, but I chose these two to do as they are (despite people saying that The Hobbit is a teaser) similar in length, they came out at a similar time and are both highly anticipated, by everyone else and by me. People think I’m out to critic every film that’s about to come out but I can’t wait for either of these.
Oh and I completely agree about Nolan, The Dark Knight was brilliant for a couple of watches but gets more and more irritating every time you watch it. As for Inception; everyone told me it was brilliant but not one of them could say they understood it. He does a very good line in writing expansive stuff that people say is brilliant without entirely knowing why. I like Inception because I’m the biggest Leo and JGL fan in the world, but it wasn’t as amazing as every one said it was. It just made me really want to watch The Matrix. Thanks for your comment.
Luke, to each his/her own, but The dark Knight hasn’t gotten to me yet & ive lost count of the amount of times ive seen it.
Battle of what now !?!? I’ll be watching, and enjoying both films … so … YOUR STATEMENT IS INVALID !!! GTFO !!!
“Luke Stevenson is a 19 year old film writer” … wait, what ?!?! … so when FOTR came out, you were only 9 yo … how do you think ppl will take this article seriously ?!?!
Has someone never heard of a DVD and a rewatch?
Check out this short film I found on YouTube – reminds me of INCEPTION and MEMENTO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbwDe8ogdbQ
Lol what a stupid article, 3/5 for the Hobbit Trailer? Someone give this guy a slap and send him back to the time where real movies and books came out. ‘Is Bilbo going to die’? Are you retarded? How the FUCK is the main point of the story?! Where the fuck did they hint he might die anyways?! ‘Will I COME BACK Gandalf?’ LOL WHO THE FUCK EVEN GAVE YOU THE RIGHT TO COMPARE THIS SUPERHERO GARBAGE TO TOLKIENS ART!? Fucking kids and brats these days, see explosions and they shit their pants already worshipping it. 3/5!? Fucking idiot, 5/5. You know jack-shit about Culture bitch, stick to your Call of Duty shit kid.
Oh hi Sarnius, rich of you to talk about being un-cultured when you talk like someone who spent their life wishing to be a gang banger and pretending your parents don’t understand you, whilst you sit here dolling out anonymous abuse.
‘Oo everyone look at me, I’ve read The Lord of The Rings and think movies with explosions are bad! Look how cultured I am!’
I took the perspective of someone who hasn’t read the books, which I haven’t, and this film looks like a ‘Oo, Bilbo might die.’ Film which is why I made that comment, the actual story may be completely different, but the fact the trailer fails to communicate that isn’t my failing, it’s the trailers. So stop accusing me of worshipping explosions when you are blindly worshipping something that goes against popular opinion (that TDKR doesn’t look good) and think it makes you better than me.
My favourite five films involve nothing at all blowing up, so you’re ability to cliche is both dumb as it is inaccurate. So why don’t you go where your opinion is appreciated, a street corner drinking white lightning whilst you try to sound impressive and big because you have an opinion on Lord of The Rings. I never said this film looks bad, I didn’t tell anyone not to watch it, so I fail to see your issue.
Oh…and I don’t own a single Call of Duty. So kindly, bore off.
All i can say is i can not wait for TDKR. I believe it will be
the film of 2012.
I freaking love LOTR & can’t wait for the Hobbit. The bottom line in reguards to the Nolan Batflicks, lol, Nolans made an impact. The minority may say crap like, they’re over rated, or they all out suck, etc. Come on, you’re fighting a losing battle. If I could only see two movies on the big screen this year, TDKR & Hobbit it is.
Totally different kinds of films, but I think I’m more interested in The Hobbit. While I do like the Nolan Batman films, I think there is definitely room for the franchise to be rebooted again in a few years time, going back to a more comic (NOT camp) style like the recent games.
Im not gonna lie I’m one of the biggest Nolan fan boys going and I’m overly excited for TDKR but what annoys me is that are current Internet generation have to always divide, pick a side and compare things and get all hateful! Waste of time! I’ll be going to see both films and hopefully be extremely satisfied with both!
Is nobody taking in account the Hobbit is being split into two films? the second part is called the hobbit: there and back again. Honestly, I’m more excited for the first one as it has Gollum and much of the action, but then again the second part has the battle of 5 armies, which, if they do it right, will be EPIC. Period.