The Superhero genre is the most mainstream class of comic book you can find, but the most misunderstood and disrespected by the uninitiated. DC Comics, a company that has been playing catch-up to its main competitor, Marvel Comics, since the 1960s, moved to make their products more accessible to average people this year with an initiative called The New 52, systematically cancelling all of their titles and replacing them with fifty-two titles, all relaunching with a new first issue this past September.
DC has felt the need to make similar decisions in the past, most famously with 1985’s Crisis on Infinite Earths which also dramatically restructured all of the titles and paved the way for a completely different DC Universe. Whereas Marvel shows more reverence for their history, often providing elaborate and illogical explanations for past storylines, DC will toss out decades of history on a whim and it’s to their credit that they recognize the need for evolution in serialized fiction.
Now that we’re a few months into The New 52, we can analyze whether or not its lived up to its mission statement, mainly to make more accessible stories and draw in new readers with well-told stories that don’t hinge on being familiar with twenty years of comics history. While DC’s decisions work well in theory, they seem to be afraid of taking too much of a risk. Instead of diving into the water, they’re hanging on the side of the pool, eyes closed, claiming to swim laps while haphazardly flailing their water winged arms around.
Is DC really serious about The New 52? Or do their actions run counter to the stated message?
Loose Continuity
The stated goal of the New 52, according to DC, is to reinvigorate old titles and offer fresh versions of characters for new readers. While DC’s output definitely needed a shot in the arm in terms of overall quality, some titles were doing very well in sales. So, acknowledging this, the powers that be left many things completely untouched by the reboot while others were completely erased from continuity. As a result, we’re left wondering when exactly certain events took place or (in the case of characters that have been removed) who was even involved with said events.
Here’s a good example: Alan Scott, the golden age Green Lantern, has disappeared from the DCU. We’ve been told that he and his other Justice Society counterparts will eventually reside on Earth 2, which is all well and good, but Alan’s absence directly impacts on Kyle Rayner. Alan acted as a mentor for Kyle when he first became Green Lantern and Jen, Alan’s daughter (also known as the adventurer Jade), eventually dated him. Now that Alan is gone, Jen is gone, too. Thus a large part of Kyle’s history is gone as well.
That’s just the tip of the iceberg. There are plenty of new developments that leave fans scratching their heads wondering what’s what. Even something as simple as a sketchy timeline of events would go miles towards helping us understand everything. DC’s refusal to let go of what was successful will eventually come back to haunt them with glaring continuity issues, which is exactly what happened to characters like Hawkman and Power Girl. Plus, the mission statement of the relaunch is to bring in new readers, but if someone who’s never read a comic before picks up a book like Green Lantern or Batman, (and let’s be honest – people are most likely to pick up one of these books with the characters’ healthy exposure in mainstream culture) they’ll find themselves dropped in the middle of a story, asking themselves questions like “What is the Sinestro Corps?” and “Batman has a son?” DC wants to have their cake and eat it, too and it’s going to cause problems in the future.
New in Name Only

While the relaunch updates a lot of characters and gives them a good jumping-on point for new readers, none of them are actually new creations. Can Barbara Gordon becoming Batgirl again really be considered new? Dick Grayson is Nightwing once again. New? Sure, a lot of characters who didn’t have titles now appear in their own books, but these are people who already existed. If anything, DC is actively against anything new, systematically reducing the relevance of characters created after the silver age like Wally West and Cassandra Cain. Most of the moves that have been made are in the interest of preserving a DCU that strongly resembles the comics of the 60s. Sure, the “Not Quite New But Feels Very Similar 52” is not as pithy as what they have, but it’s definitely more accurate.
Diversity for Diversity’s Sake
The Justice League is a gathering of Earth’s most recognizable heroes, each with their own golden age pedigree and status as the DCU’s heavy hitters…and Cyborg, who just so happens to be black. Shoehorning Cyborg in to the League feels like superhero affirmative action; as if Superman turned to Batman and said “You know what? We need a black guy.” Cyborg can’t even carry his own book! While I’m certainly in favor avoiding a fighting force made up of seven white people, it really feels as if it’s the Justice League and Black Friend. Mr. Terrific, who is also black, gained his own title, but does he really deserve it? Is he a character who can sustain his own book? Only the sales figures will tell, but it’s definitely not a book anybody is talking about much.
Ultimate Comics: Ultimate Spider-Man is diversity done well: by taking Spider-Man and making him a legacy character, it allows the mantle to be picked up by a minority. He has a connection to someone people already love and breathes new life into the concept. But, Marvel has always been better at diversity than DC. The Justice League’s problem could just as easily have been solved by adding John Stewart as the resident Green Lantern (which also would have helped separate the Green Lantern movie from the herd), but DC is too attached to Hal Jordan to abandon his spot on their premiere book. So just throw in Cyborg and it’ll be fine!
Same Old Gimmicks

When the first issue of Justice League was released it heralded the new direction for DC Comics. All of the information we’d received up until then was that this was going to be the premiere book and the best example of how things work in the new universe, but the end of the issue teased a fight between Superman and Batman yet again. Seeing those two characters battle hasn’t been new and exciting since Frank Miller’s The Dark Knight Returns in 1986 or possibly 2002’s Hush storyline. In both of those, these skirmishes were a result of the plot and were important to the story; Justice League #2 had them fighting until it wasn’t time to fight anymore. And it’s not just that title either. Batgirl vs. Nightwing in Batgirl #3; Voodoo vs. Green Lantern in Voodoo #3.
Take note of the cover of Supergirl depicting her and Superman fighting: due to the angle of the shot, Superman fills up most of the space while a much smaller Supergirl hangs in the background. Boosting sales of struggling or lesser known titles with appearances by more popular characters is an old standard of the comics industry and in no way, shape or form resembles something groundbreaking. Seeing Batman and Superman fight “for the first time” all over again inspires groans and eye rolls. Shoving characters into books they don’t belong in and having the characters fight for no good reason is insulting to readers.
There Are Girls Here, Too!

There has been a lot of controversy recently over the way DC has been depicting some of its female characters, with Catwoman and Starfire eliciting the most venom. She may have gotten her own title, but throughout the first issue, Catwoman is in various states of undress. In fact, we get better views of her red bra before seeing her face properly. The issue concluded with an unnecessary sexual encounter with Batman, reducing her role in the DCU to the Dark Knight’s Booty Call. Starfire gets an even rawer deal, not only does she play second fiddle to Jason Todd and Roy Harper, she’s been reduced to a mindless, scantily clad, dream vision of what misogynists assume females are. She appears to have very little higher brain function, a terrible memory and propositions sex from her teammates as casually as one might break off a piece of that Kit Kat bar. These are two characters that have proved to be fully capable in their own right, yet they are instantly made into sex objects. Yes, superhero comics are male dominated, both in readership and characters, and more females are definitely a good thing, but not when they’re only there to remind men about bumping uglies.
Even Wonder Woman, the supposed paragon of feminism in the DCU doesn’t escape unscathed. In the first issue of her series, she is seen naked for no reason. It literally contributes nothing to the plot. We have the Internet; we have Cinemax after dark; we even have a wide array of assorted filthy magazines. If we want porn, there’s no shortage of it anywhere. We don’t have to count on our escapist fantasy for our sexual perversions. I’ve always thought that when a male creator writes a story for a girl character that he should formulate it the same way he would a comic about a man. And rest assured, these scantily clad, brain dead females only show up in books penned by men. It’s a kind of invisible sexism that allows DC to say they have titles devoted to female characters, but still parade them around as trollops for fanboys’ amusement. They say their goal is to increase readership, yet they insult half of their prospective audience with women that look and act like a sixteen year old boy’s wet dream.
Look, I’m enjoying The New 52 so far, for the most part, but when I consider what could have been, how DC could have started completely fresh and really pushed its marketing to appeal to those that have never picked up a comic before, I can’t help but feel disappointed. There was a television commercial that didn’t even make it clear they were referring to comic books and some mainstream news items leading up to the relaunch, but other than that there hasn’t been much effort put in. It just feels like once the novelty wears off, the new readers lose interest and sales return to what they were before (or worse) all of this stuff will be quietly swept under the rug and we’ll get the Amazing Return of the Classic DCU. Perhaps it’s all part of a master plan. Hell, it worked for Coke.
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51 Comments
Dude, stop being so whiny and petty. It’s a comic book. Read it and enjoy it for the story and art and stop expecting the world to stay the same so that it conforms to your narrow view of what is necessary for anyone to enjoy anything.
Crybaby.
Who the hell are you to tell anybody anything? You’re just another nameless, faceless idiot on the internet. Go start your own website or blog and leave the rest of us to actually make intelligent comments. Heck, leave the chimpanzees to make more intelligent comments than you, Captain Douche.
In my comment, I was speaking about people like you. Thank you, whiny manchild, for proving my point so well. Get a life you pathetic wretch.
Hey Everyone, you’re telling people to “get a life”, yet here you are, commenting on something that, for all intensive purposes, is meaningless. Don’t criticize others for their opinions on the internet when that is exactly what you’re doing, putting your opinion on the web. I’m open to criticism, but not hypocrisy.
Hey losers, just because the guy doesn’t comform to every crappy new idea DC will peckerslap you with, it mean that YOU can trash talk. The new 52 is pure unoriginal GARBAGE, it’s just that some of us are smart enough to figure it out and some of you have parents that are related. Any DC fan talking down the DCnU earned it, and DC DESERVES it.
killDCnU i think you missed the point of the new 52, to bring a new generation into the fold so to speak but obviously you missed that as you sat typing your idiotic comment in your mothers basement. DC wanted to get new readers and to do this they needed to have a fresh start so these new readers could be with these characters from the start. Stop crying like little babies over this, I welcome the new 52 and personally think cyborg was a great addition to the team.
The new generation is totally clueless. They “welcome change” because they have no respect of the good things of the past that have worked and still work today. All in the name of “edginess”, “hip” and “being modern”.
“Alan’s daughter (also known as the adventurer Jade), eventually dated him. Now that Alan is gone, Jen is gone, too. Thus a large part of Kyle’s history is gone as well.”
Not necessarily.
The Huntress was originally the daughter of the Earth-2 Batman and CatWoman.
After Crisis on Infinite Earths which eliminated the direct Golden Age counterparts of Superman, Batman & Robin, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and several others, the Huntress was retconned into a Mafiosi’s daughter who became a Punisher clone adventurer after her parents were killed by rival criminals.
So Jade may well be alive, with a different backstory.
“Now that Alan is gone, Jen is gone, too. Thus a large part of Kyle’s history is gone as well.”
First off – your example is (no personal offense intended here) a bit poor: A C-list supporting cast member (Jade) has been shuffled off into an alternate world, leaving a whole in the continuity of a semi-important 90s replacement hero (Kyle Rayner).
To which, the world responds with a collective…”Okay….so?”
Secondly, this is how reboots work; some old stories and events simply do not fit into the new paradigm, leaving “memory holes”, as Alan Moore calls them.
Oh, and also – No matter how much DC continuity reflects the pre-Flashpoint DCU *now*, consider the sobering reality that this is the MOST the new DCU will feel like its predecessor ever again. From here on out, it’ll move farther and farther away from the events and status quo specific to the 80s-00s.
There are plenty of glaring errors with the relaunch. You just scratched the surface. The continuity is in shambles. Wally West absence throws a lot of characters history in the wind and confuses stories even more. Wally west was connected to characters like Kyle Raynor, Dick Grayson and Roy Harper pretty much everyone who was a member of the JLA. He was important to many past storylines and helped develop characters history. If Wally never was then who helped make Dick’s decision to leave the Titans and go from Sidekick to hero? What about Firestorm and his role in blackest night which obviously happened? Or did blackest night happen? Was Kyle ever part of the JLA? And wasn’t the jla a huge part of the blackest night? The new 52 sucks and I can’t help that Jim Lee is living out his wet dream when he oversaw these changes. The dcu is worse than ever.
Could not agree more. Hopefully in a year or so this will all be written of as a bad dream….or bad alternate Earth story!
Considering that Green Lantern didn’t retcon at all its probably worth assuming that Blackest Night is still canon, also Deadman and Dove are still together, so Brightest Day is canon so by extension Blackest night is also canon
Speaking as someone who had never read a DC comic before, and only a few Marvel titles earlier in the year, I was not at all confused by the Green Lantern or Batman books. I think some of the confusion comes from long-time readers trying to put themselves in the place of new readers. “What is the Sinestro Corps?” You find out in the first couple issues that they’re bad guys, meant to protect Korugar, who are not doing that very well at all. That’s all you need to know for the story. “Batman has a son?” You find out in Batman #1 that yes, he does. I don’t know the backstory behind that, but it’s not something that I can’t wrap my head around or anything. To get to my point, I think it’s easier for new readers than people who have been reading DC up to this point, because we don’t KNOW what stories existed before, so we aren’t worried about it. If we need to know, it’s brought up in the issue, and so far, it’s been working very well for me.
Josh….Batman and Green Lantern were the only characters and titles that were not changed in the new 52. So yeah it was easy to jump into. Try the other titles. Messy and confusing. And crap. They ruined the Titans in the relaunch. Ruined them.
Batman and Green Lantern were not changed because the chosen ones (Lee & Morrison) wrote the pre-New 52 stories….they weren’t going to change that. Granted it’s pretty good stuff, but now Jim Lee gets to live his wet dream of having his Wild Storm Universe characters incorporated into the DCnU.Where are the WildC.A.T.S.? While us long time fans must suffer the loss of elements we loved. Superman has suffered the most from this change (I’m sure the lawsuit has a lot to do with it also.)And the diversity for diversity’s sake commentary about Justice League hit the nail on the head. Cyborg does not belong in Justice League. I love Cyborg and they have diminished him in my opinion. Make J’onn J’onzz civilian identity black if you need diversity, that would work. Instead they stuck him in Storm Watch (with a crappy redesign too).
For some reason I think this relauch has worked better for the people that didn’t use to read DC Comics, than for the old-time fans. At least that’s what I gather from my friends (all Marvel readers) and from internet forums. For some “old-time” fans of DC, this has been a nightmare.
The first comic I remember reading was Man of Steel #1, so I’m a Post-Crisis child. To me, DC dropped the ball sometime around 2004 or 2005, with the all the “Crisises” and relaunching Superman twice in 4 years with Birthright, Secret Origin… while still keeping stuff from the Byrne version of the character (and yet again with New 52). Once your flagship character has an entangled continuity, the rest of the universe will suffer. Who am I kidding? Batman is DC’s flagship character now, Superman has been relegated to be a B-lister now, behind Batman and Hal Jordan.
Thank you DiDio, Johns and Lee.
Let’s face facts. DC have relaunched in a bid to attract new readers. Will it work? We don’t know. The majority of long time readers will be miffed, it’s understandable. A total shuffle of all titles and characters, rewritten stories and time lines disrupted is enough to **** off even the most die hard of followers. As for the Man of steel being a B lister. I have the feeling that’s all about to change next year. Two major DC movies next year will boost whatever the new 52 misses.
Thank you for taking the time to write this. Unlike others, I’m not offended by anything you said. You make very good points, while also saying you’re ENJOYING the new 52. Which is more than I can say.
Marvel’s 3.99 price point had me drop my Marvel titles a year ago & the new 52 has me no longer buying single issues, opting for trades now.
Thank you again for taking the time & effor to write these out. I enjoyed your points.
I have felt since DC started to do the Crisis Events again that continuity in is the mind of the reader – you can make your own. I understand that it is difficult to reconcile sometimes but I don’t see the point in ignoring good stories because it doesn’t match up with a time-line that can never be open ended and will reboot anyway. And isn’t that the most important thing? Good stories.
I like the DC 52 and whilst I am not reading all the titles, once you get over Catwoman’s undress, the story so far has been alright (I thought anyway). Starfire is harder to defend…to the point where I have nothing…
Dwayne McDuffie talks about “the rule of three” where it relates to black characters in entertainment. Specifically how adding black characters to previously all white teams makes white males uneasy. The racism that underlies this uneasyness is evident in this article. An article about comic books where Affirmative Action (not the racism that makes it necessary) is attacked again. White people have had affirmative action for 500 years! Get over yourselves you hateful bastards!
Yea, whatever. They were complaining about the fact that Cyborg is a bad character for the fit in. Firestorm or John Stuart GL would seem better fits to me. Both have a JLA history. Now go have YOUR racist rant somewhere else and get over your oversensitive self.
The only racist rant is YOURS.
yeah i don’t think anyone really has a problem with the character he’s a good character but that’s going to suffer a little if put next to batman/superman/wonder woman etc
To add to the comment by “Shabataka,” the perspective you’ve applied to the racial dynamic of the JLA is pretty absurd, and does indeed hint at your own underlying bias.
I mean, really. When has a character being able to carry their own book ever been a requirement for JLA membership?
Anyone who’s actually been around long enough to see the Justice League go through its multiple variations (and re-launches) knows that the team is ALWAYS composed of characters who have never sustained their own titles. Ten who come to mind now are:
1. Doctor Light/Kimiyo Hoshi
2. Big Barda
3. Bloodwynd
4. Maxima
5. Nuklon
6. Crimson Fox
7. Vixen
8. G’nort
9. Fire
10. Ice
And while on the subject, Black Canary is a longtime team member and has led the JLA, but how many titles solo titles has she carried on her own exactly? Two mini-series, and another that lasted for exactly twelve issues–which qualifies it as little more than a maxi-series.
Wow. I enjoy well reasoned articles like this and appreciate when people stick their necks out to write. My quandary is not the subject of the article or the replies, but the vehemence of some of the commentators. While it’s true these are just comics, but how we comport ourselves with people with whom we have differing views define how we are perceived. That said, some of the views shared here are valid from possible racial undercurrents to the loss of longevity/continuity. It is only their borderline belligerent delivery that may make the points moot. If we are educated and well read, our discourse should reflect it.
Firstly, we haven’t even seen how Cyborg fits into the Justice League yet, so how can you say he’s the token black guy? Cyborg needed a reboot and he’s getting one, he might even be made interesting.
Second, Catwoman has been quite good, and I like the fact that she’s having a steamy relationship with Bats.
Starfire, as I mentioned on Dan DiDio’s Facebook page after a former Teen Titans Animated Series fan complained that her current sexuality didn’t gel with the anime gushy goodie-goodie portrayal from the tv series, “some people just grow up slutty.” Doesn’t mean Red Hood isn’t a good book. In fact it’s much better than expected.
I have dropped a few, Blue Beetle, Mister Terrific, Hawkman and Firestorm because I thought they were poorly written. I’ve been pleasantly surprised by many others, OMAC, Red Hood, Catwoman, Stormwatch, Demon Knights, Frankenstein, Animal Man, Swamp Thing and several others.
I’ve been a long time DC fan and I’m enjoying this reboot very much so far. I think to assume that all continuity is lost, or that certain characters are gone forever before we even have 5 issues of any title, is very premature. You’re all entitled to your opinions, so am I. I’m very invested in the DCU and I welcomed the reboot. It needed a kick in the pants. The writer is correct about one thing, it remains to be seen whether or not new readers will stick around, but this old one remains.
Lastly, saying that Marvel is better about diversity is BS. Let’s not forget how Jim Shooter refused to allow any gay characters for many years.
I agree, Red hood is good, even though i loved the old teen titans animated series, also as a new fan to DC (having previously seen it as second to Marvel) the new 52 has been a good way for me to get on board and enjoy some good comics
that being said i disagree with your last point, i have always seen Marvel as this writer says as the more diverse comic company, but of course that in itself doesn’t say anything about the quality of comics, and Marvel has plenty of gay characters now but i don’t know any in DC
What a bitchy little article. I’m a lapsed reader from the 70′s (childhood) and 90′s (my 30′s) – I signed on with the relaunch and am still buying 30+ titles, 4 issues in. A few will drop off, but I am thoroughly enjoying the vast majority of them. I never read any Vertigo books, so I’m being introduced to a number of new, engaging characters. My demo was one of DC’s specific targets…and they got me. I cannot be alone in this.
I’ve been away from the comics field for a few years, but it’s nice to be back. I’ve really enjoyed the new 52. Loving the JL, GL, Action and Aquaman. 3 of the 4 titles i wouldn’t have purchased b4 the relaunch. I believe that in the comics medium you can only hold a timeline for so long and then it has to be changed. If not, it all becomes repetitive. Origins can stay the same, but as long as the stories are great, I can compartmentalize certain time periods. This will just give us all more to discuss later ie, which supes or bats time period was the best!
Continuity doesn’t mean a damn thing. Never has, never will. I’ve been reading comics for 35 years, and when I pick up a comic, I start on pg 1, not 10 years back. I pick up the story as it unfolds and if I don’t get every reference, I don’t sweat it. A good single issue or great storyline arc isn’t dependent on the past. You enjoy the writing and art, and the magic begins. When I bought New Teen Titans #1 back in 1980, I didn’t worry about how it fit in with continuity because there was none- there was a half-assed excuse for Kid Flash existing, no origin at all for Wonder Girl, and several new characters. None of that stopped it from being a fantastic series, and several of the New 52 are shaping up to be incredible. Have some faith, and stop worrying about how the story you’re reading jibes with past events- it doesn’t matter.
I suppose I should at least briefly address the other points: 1. Alan Scott? Seriously? Who could possibly care less?
2. New in name only: I suppose you don’t consider Batwing new enough? Or the remake of Wonder Woman enough of a shake-up? (I personally hate the new WW, but that’s another rant), or Justice League Dark a new grouping? Voodoo? I, Vampire? Green Lantern: New Guardians ? There are lots of shake-ups and re-imagined characters and titles, and much more to come.
3. Diversity: Cyborg (Victor Stone) is getting a full-scale retelling of his origin, and being brought in at ground level (5 years in the past) to have been a founding member of JL. Considering that after 3 issues he isn’t even functional yet, I think deciding he’s been shoehorned in as a token black character is more than a bit premature. It looks like he’s going to be a very important member, as his alternate future version in Flashpoint suggested.
4. Same old gimmicks? Yep, I’ll give you that. But it’s hard to put meaningful combat into a storyline from the first few pages while you’re working on exposition. Again, wait and see.
5. The Girls: I think the anti-Starfire bandwagon is more than a bit premature too. Todd and Harper’s perceptions of Koriand’r are already being proved faulty by #3, and the art and storyline are excellent. A little fan service isn’t the end of the world, and considering how brutal Catwoman’s experiences have been in her first few issues, one could hardly say it’s been all cheesecake with her, either. Give them a chance to develop, and then blast them if they fail to do so.
Death of superman, reign of the supermen….never happened. Identity crisis…never happened. Blackest night….they say it still happened but how could it? Half of the characters involved have now been removed from continuity. The other half their character and history were rebooted. The Hush storyline….did it happen? Couldn’t have Superman was under poison ivy’s control but since he’s been changed he was now never in The Hush story. Things like this is what’s so upsetting…..reboot everything or leave it alone. To hell with this “soft” reboot that only serves to mind f@&k the loyal readers and up heaves the entire continuity to the mess it was pre-crisis. Now what? Was Reign of Superman some Earth 89 crap? Was Hush an elseworlds story? WTF is going on??? We need a timeline to explain what is continuity and how this all relates now
THIS is what I mean!! I have been reading comic books for maybe a year now, and I did my share of going back to understand where the continuity was and why certain characters were the way they were. Now, in the new 52, I find myself lost amid all this half-baked continuity. I have no idea what has happened or who fits where!!! WTF happened to Ted Kord?! I hated Maxwell Lord, but he made for awesome story telling!! Did Blackest Night happen only in the GL books? If so, how come everyone else forgot what happened? Did Brightest Day happen?! THIS IS SO CONFUSING!!!!! Dx If they wanted to start off fresh, why not get rid of ALL of the old continuity and REALLY start with the new 52?! Oh! And does PG exist or is Karen Starr just Karen Starr??? GAH!! Also, being a woman myself, I wish the few female characters weren’t used as eye-candy as much as they are…and as a Hispanic, I wish Blue Beetle didn’t read as a Spanglish book…it confuses me even though I know both English and Spanish…
I enjoyed reading this article, and while I don’t agree a 100%, I am not going to have a bitch fit. Some of the comments that complain about it being whiny or racist are idiotic. The author made some good arguments that he backed up with fact.
You think it’s whiny? Because he made perfectly valid points that also aggravated many fans? The only people who are whiny are the ones offended because they take it as a personal insult and go into a nerd rage, or the ones that call a fan bitchy for caring that something they love has been distractedly changed. He isn’t crying over spilt milk. Some characters and well known backstory has been disregaurded or throw into another dimension when it wasn’t necessary, like Wally West and Oracle.
Racist? Because he thinks John Stewart would have been a better choice? Grow up, trust me if you’re looking to complain about racism on the internet, there are plenty of other places to look. It’s true that Marvel is better at incorporating minorities, and I can understand why he thinks Cyborg was thrown in to be the black guy. He isn’t insulting Cyborg because he’s black, he’s pointing out that if DC picked a black character that made more sense as a member, it wouldn’t seem like it was just his race that put him there.
Any person has the right to criticize, but you only look like a tool if you lack legitimate reason. Like with any major franchise, money comes first, so it’s too be expected that loyal fans will be disappointed. But like any true fan, like this author, they’ll notice the flaws but still enjoy the material.
I not go to get into what race should or should not be in the comics but Cyborg seemed to old to hang out with the Teen Titans, because if I’m not mistaken a grown man hanging out with Teenagers. Also he has appeared in Smallville, a spin off of Superman, with what they consider a Justis League team. If they had a black guy take on the persona of Green Lateran , a black guy take on the of persona Cyborg and even a black lady as Catwoman, we might not even be talking about this issue. To b e frank, if the group was more divers in race it would not seem like they are just throwing in a minority for the heck of it. As for over sex woman in comics, do we really want to go the other rout and see flat chested body building women in comic books that look like they are packing man parts? That has been done in real body building for years and now the rout in that arena is to move toward more feminine features for the women body builders. Just my thoughts after reading the article and some commits.
The new 52 sucks point blank. There’s no other way to put it.
i am a long time dc fan and I have to say while yea the continuity is all messes up the stories are good and it keeps me reading and people have to remember they started over so some characters have not been introduced yet like for instance why would they reboot with like 4 different flash characters that wouldnt make sence. Characters have to be developed and introduced its a reboot!!!!
They rebooted with 4 different robin characters
Hello there. I don’t mind you using my picture of the spread of DC #1s, but it’d be nice to get a credit or a link. Thanks! Nick
They should have done a complete reboot and started everything over. They are trying to hang on to much of the past of the characters. If you are going to do a reboot, just do it not this halve way in halve way out thing.
My PENIS is hard
that was racist about what they said about CYBORG and i’m black too.
Hi, probably late on this post, but I do agree with the author about the New 52. I read Justice League, and waqs so unimpressed wuth the decompressed storytelling, terribly stupid dialogue trying to be with the times, lack of serious motivation and generic costume designs (describing an Image laden Marvel type universe) that I pretty much dropped DC. Justice League 1 could have been the big introduction and instead we only have the two characters left relatively non-rebooted. Continuing to reda about it, even the villain, th great Darkseid seems cliched for such a story. No new menace, just a revised Darkseid to motivate the so-called new heroes. I’m glad someone’is buying the material because it’s been an insult to my intelligence and time. Just feels badly corporate, butt hose aqre the times now. Even the logos feel more corporate seeming to pop out of a computer instead of hand design. The author is right. I feel with more planning and everything completely started over from scratchYou could have a line that wa creating new books every month. Start with Superman, Batman, Wonder Womn, Flash and all the single titles for a bit and then go into Justice League later. And if you’re going to have Justice League 1 be the book to buy,. damn it, make it good. Make it so you care about the heroes and can hardly wait until the next issue instead of the typical sarcastic smart mouths to which we are subjected because Marvel did it best in the ’60s and it just seems old by now, kind of like ’80s sitcoms reformatted into Disney channel teen sitcoms. Everyone says a quick sarcastic line of dialogue, and the all the kids are geniuses in their own minds. When a guy (because I know it’s not marketed to females) reads a comic book, have characters about whom he actually cares.
Soo gonna bitch about Crisis on Inifinte Earths next?
What killed the New 52 for me (to the point where I stopped buying DC titles cold turkey after decades): 1. abandoning 70+ years of history by ending the original runs of Action and Detective because, allegedly, people somehow wouldn’t “get” the idea of a reboot if they didn’t do that. As a lover of permanent print media (as opposed to temporary, transient e-book files), having Action and Detective push towards 1000 issues signified the longevity of print. They didn’t need to end the original series and start with lame V.2′s. Then they cancelled most of the titles I actually bought. And they rather offensively decided DC didn’t need a disabled, super-smart superhero and made Oracle Batgirl again. The T&A complaints in this column are meaningless – anyone actually look at Power Girl over the last 35 years? Or check out the stripper costumes the LSH wore in the 1970s? Or remember Starfire taking Robin to bed way back in the New Teen Titans era? Ramping up the sexy in Catwoman doesn’t mean anything. If anything it belongs more in the “nothing really has changed” complaint category. The only good thing that came out of this is I’m saving about $35 a week now from comics I’m no longer buying. And part of that money is now supporting independents.
I agree with those who say they should have done a complete reboot and started everything over from scratch. It would have been more interesting (in my opinion) and also less confusing.
I gave the New 52 a chance… for the first time in 12 years I am no longer buying Superman or Action Comics. I am just not interested in these new books. I hope they are getting the new readers that they wanted.
PS – I also think they should have taken a year or so and given the previous continuity a proper finale. It would have been great to see “Whatever Happened To The Man Of Tomorrow” type stories for the previous incarnations of the characters before ushering in the new versions.
Bottom line: DC’s New 52 sucks.
5 things??? 52 THINGS ARE MORE LIKE IT! It is a mockery.
Why? BECAUSE THEY RUINED ALL OUT TRADITIONAL HEROES, THAT’S WHY!!!
There are certain things that are best LEFT ALONE! rebooting my DC heroes is like taking away of what I have held dear since I was a kid and replacing something that is just a hollowed shell, trying to imitate of what once was.
It is nothing more but completely alienating and it is the most disrespectful thing i have ever seen in this blasphemous new 52
It is messed up in so many ways, it’s not even funny.
At this point,……I MISS THE REAL DC HEROES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually, it made sense to put in Cyborg. Sure, John Stewart would have been a more obvious choice but the problem is, people already whine about letting black characters into something like the Justice League. Such as yourself, constantly shouting things out like affirmative action. Think how bad it would be if they were to use John Stewart. Not only would you be committing political correctness in their eyes but you’d also be committing racial heresy for actually displacing a white character.
I mean comic “fans” lost it back when Justice League cartoon first aired…
HE has a point. Green lantern should be John Stewart. I don’t see why there is such resistance to the thought. Or create my Character Mr. Absolute.