The Dark Knight Rises was supposed to be a fitting end – not just to Nolan’s trilogy as a story-arc, but also to this entire iteration of the character and universe – and yet many walked out of their screenings wondering what next for Nolan’s universe after the director offered a tantalising glimpse of something more beyond the end of his own trilogy. Rather than finality, Nolan encouraged his audiences to imagine what might happen after the credits rolled, with John Blake presumably left in charge of Gotham’s safety and Bruce Wayne riding off into the sun-set with his feline new best friend for life in tow.
Reboots are far from as necessary as film-making studios might have us believe: there is actually very little you can do in a reboot that can’t be just as easily handled in a sequel – look at The Amazing Spider-Man, a solid film which some have deemed a failure because it failed to dislodge Sam Raimi’s first two Spiderman movies as the best adaptations so far. That should have been the premier intention of that film, because rebooting inherently requires the surpassing of the original, otherwise the whole process is completely redundant.
Instead The Amazing Spider-Man introduced a new villain, a new love-interest and little to suggest that it couldn’t have simply been handled as a sequel. That would probably have been preferable approach, given that the retrodden areas were arguably the least successful parts of the film – in particular the origin story.
The Amazing Spider-Man could and should have been a lesson for the next Batman film – a parable of the unnecessary reboot. But instead – if the reboot goes ahead – we will have to drop those still potentially fruitful strands of The Dark Knight Rises, leaving our imaginations to fill in the blanks of that potential future, despite how bountiful a screen realisation of them could have been.
It’s a total cop-out – if Warner Bros decide that a reboot is the only way forward, as they seem to be leading us to believe, then they simply aren’t testing themselves as a creative force. And they should have killed off Nolan’s Batman literally as well as figuratively to close the door on any possible extensions. But in choosing not to, the studio have courted this sort of debate, whether they have stated their intention to reboot or not.
But then, why would Warner Bros want to reboot, when they have a mega-lucrative franchise on their hands, with an enormous amount of primary material to potentially adapt from the comic book world of Batman? And those aren’t the only reasons, so click within to reveal our ten reasons why Warner Bros would be crazy to reboot Batman…
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I actually prefer the idea of continuing. I think A Chris Nolan Batman is a perfect fit for The Justice League. Lets say that Ryan Reynolds is the Green Lantern in the Justice League movie. Then we put Nolan’s batman next to him and we have something dynamic due to the extreme difference of personality. And there should be that difference, otherwise we end up with a group of super clones that may as well all be the same character. Having a team that actually works requires the process of adjustment due to the diversity of the various personalities. People like that part of the story, that growth of the characters toward a team as the film and story progress. Life is like that and I for one want this movie to feel real. I don’t see how continuing to tell the tales of The Batman can any other direction than from the point where Joseph Gordon Levitt enters that batcave.
A movie with a John Blake Batman could be good interesting. It would mean Nolan’s Bruce Wayne Mission was a success by creating a symbol or legend. That’s the direction I think would be interesting to see. Everyone believes Batman died saving them, but he is a urban legend striking from the shadows. It’s something that’s been touch on but not full explored. That’s what Robin John Blake could do, try to grow upon the legend of the bat. There is still the Fact that Black Gate prison’s inmate where released, who’s to say they have all been recaptured, meaning organized crime may well be back in Gotham, yet another mission for the new Batman.
I’m not convinced.
I have mixed feelings about TDKR. I do like how the theme of ‘legacy’ runs throughout the film, and even how Bruce Wayne finally gets to become a real human being at the end. It is an interesting take on Wayne, but not really the same as Wayne from the comics.
I would love to see Robin as Batman in a followup film, but it is just not the same as Bruce as Batman.
I am actually looking forward to the inevitable Bruce as Batman reboot. Now that we have the Nolan version, Burton version and Arkham Asylum version of Batman, we have all the groundwork for an even better Batman.
Also, I don’t mind them going over the death of Bruce’s parents a few times. It is the driving force for Bruce as Batman. I think Nolan should have come back to that more often to have a Bruce more like the comics.
I agree that another reboot is a waste of time going over the same old story arcs again and again. I don’t think there are many people left on the planet who don’t know how super heros like Batman, Superman and Spiderman came to be. If you don’t know then there’s just something wrong with you, the only excuse you have is maybe you got trapped in ice like old Cap and you missed the last 50+ years.
While i would like to see the story from TDKR continue i’d rather see it as a Bruce Wayne Batman and not as a Robin dressed as Batman continuing the legacy kinda thing. Bruce Wayne is Batman, full stop (in my opinion).
I agree, if Bond can do it (and do it well!) then why can’t Batman have different actors in a continuation of the same story.
I LOVE number 10…We can’t Wait! I adore Christian Bale as Wayne/Batman and believe this scenario is already in the works. CB has already alluded to coming back after a longer time span as an older Batman several times and that Nolan keeps “his plans close to his chest”. To me Christian has given away this future event with JGL filling in the meantime. When I saw the Bat signal fixed at the end of this film IT told me one thing.. Bruce Wayne’s Batman will be back someday and Bale will be Batman. Just a few days ago CB mentioned returning. I would be thrilled to have this to look forward to. NO reboots!!!
I think they should make both a sequel (with JGL), & a prequel to DKR showing what Bruce was doing during his hiatus… I like to think he was still working as batman behind the backs of the people, maybe fighting a villain that is liked or admired by Gotham for his financial success (penguin).. since he’s not a masked villain and has to maintain good status in Gotham as Oswalt Cobblepot, he hires another villain to carry out the trash… Then at the end reveal that he was merely another pawn of the League of Shadows, tying right into DKR.. Also I think in the beginning of DKR, Bruce and Alfred suspected the League of Shadows way too quickly, so this might suggest they were waiting for the LOS to return..
This is ridiculous, you can’t seriously expect to see Nolan’s Batman fighting alongside Superman. The point with Nolan’s batman universe was that it was supposed to be realistic and grounded, a place where super powered beings don’t exist. Batman struggled to fight against a Bane that wasn’t even half the size of his comic book counterpart, and I don’t need to tell you how Nolan’s Bane would’ve faired against Superman. You say Man of Steel will feature a Superman more akin to Nolan’s Batman, but that doesn’t change the fact Superman has super strength, can fly and has heat vision. Also you say John Blake could take over, who would want to see a character who was created outside of the comic books feature in Justice League movie, not only that Nolan’s Bruce Wayne underwent training from the League of Assassins/Shadows, John Blake is just a cop.
DC/WB is trying to move towards a shared universe, where the likes of Green Lantern, Flash and Superman can co-exist, there’s no way that can happen if Batman isn’t rebooted. DC is going give us a Batman more faithful to the comics, a detective, a man with genius level intellect, a man trained in over a hundred martial arts, a man who actually builds his gadgets. I know there are a lot of comic book fans who can’t wait for this to happen; and it will happen so just accept it.
This is ridiculous, you can’t seriously expect to see Nolan’s Batman fighting alongside Superman. The point with Nolan’s batman universe was that it was supposed to be realistic and grounded, a place where super powered beings don’t exist. Batman struggled to fight against a Bane that wasn’t even half the size of his comic book counterpart, and I don’t need to tell you how Nolan’s Bane would’ve faired against Superman. You say Man of Steel will feature a Superman more akin to Nolan’s Batman, but that doesn’t change the fact Superman has super strength, can fly and has heat vision. Also you say John Blake could take over, who would want to see a character who was created outside of the comic books feature in Justice League movie, not only that Nolan’s Bruce Wayne underwent training from the League of Assassins/Shadows, John Blake is just a cop.
DC/WB is trying to move towards a shared universe, where the likes of Green Lantern, Flash and Superman can co-exist, there’s no way that can happen if Batman isn’t rebooted. DC is going give us a Batman more faithful to the comics, a detective, a man with genius level intellect, a man trained in over a hundred martial arts, a man who actually builds his gadgets. There are many comic book fans who can’t wait for this to happen; and it will happen so just accept it.
No reboot please….
I definitely agree with this article, after the excellent Nolan trilogy, I don’t want to watch another man take over Batman, as director and as Bruce Wayne/Batman.
Point 10 is the most relevant to me, I think because I would wait for Christian Bale to come back as Batman in however many years time.
Overall, I agree with all the reasons…it’s unnecessary to reboot.
Film Companies are going crazy. They think that a reboot is the only way, but look the new spiderman only gross 200,000,000 and they ruined the story. (I miss the Raimi’s J. Jonah Jameson)… A reboot is reasonable ONLY when the actors die or get older and they can’t reprise their roles anymore (Like Michael Keaton as Batman)…. Batman 4 has potencial..1!