Imagine if you would a band as much influenced by At The Drive-In as they are Iron Maiden whose style often evokes casual likenings to prog-rock champions Rush and whom write their music and lyrics in large part to tell an epic science-fiction narrative which has already been translated into a comic book series and prose novel and, oh yeah, that story has just been optioned by Mark Wahlberg and Steven Levinson of Leverage for a film adaptation. Having a bit of trouble forging such an overpowering concoction of awesome? Well first of all, calm down, you should relax more. Secondly, I’ll help you out of this jam – the band is Coheed and Cambria and their story contains its own story known as The Amory Wars.
For those unfamiliar, honestly, I’m not concerned with you; that’s what Wikipedia’s for. But in case you don’t have six hours to spend getting lost down the rabbit hole of superfluous details and endless links, the long and short of it is that in the late 90s/early 2000s there was this group of young guys playing hard rock together in upstate New York and one of them got it in his head that it’d be fun to write a sci-fi saga and spin its tale through his band’s particular brand of metal, post-punk, and pop rock. These guys eventually coalesced into the band Coheed and Cambria, the names of the two most prominent characters in the concept story’s first installment, the band’s 2002 debut album, The Second Stage Turbine Blade for indie label Equal Vision Records who’ve released albums for similarly unique underground rock acts as Refused and Gatsby’s American Dream. Its listeners were quickly captivated by its infectious blend of heavy progressive rock and catchy melodies mixed with mysterious and darkly cinematic atmospheres. The band earned enough support from fans to make their second album, In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3, a major success in 2003.
By now, Coheed had enough well informed devotees to ask the question, “What the hell kind of lyrics have we been swinging our heads to for the last two years?” It was around this time that Coheed’s guitarist and lyricist, Claudio Sanchez, acknowledged that indeed his band’s music was intrinsically fused with an ongoing operatic space saga and promised fans that this story would eventually see a more refining and clarifying light of day.
After some false starts and speed bumps, Sanchez was able to not only start publishing a comic book series in 2004 titled The Amory Wars which he writes himself, but he did so in part through Evil Ink, the publishing company he started. Together with Image comics, 12 Gauge comics, and Boom Studios, The Amory Wars was released as a ten issue series from 2004 to 2008 telling the story contained within Second Stage. During this time the band released their major label debut in 2005 for Columbia Records, Good Apollo, I’m Burning Star IV, Volume 1: Fear Through the Eyes of Madness, an album which contains as much talent and skill as its title does syllables, and its slightly less well received sequel and apparent conclusion to the concept story, No World For Tomorrow, in 2007.
So here’s where it starts to reach massive nerd levels of complication and convolution (and I’m not even about to scratch the surface of the story itself). At this point the band has four albums, a comic book mini-series adaptation of the first album (which chronologically is actually the second part of the entire concept story), a graphic novel adaptation of the third album (which is actually the fourth-wall-breaking fourth part of the story) released in 2005, and no accompanying publishings for its second and fourth albums. Oh, and Sanchez released a record in 2006 under his solo project, The Prize Fighter Inferno, which also tells a story within the Amory Wars universe.
Then came 2010’s The Black Rainbow, Coheed’s fifth album and prequel to The Amory Wars which was released simultaneously with a novel of the same name co-written by Sanchez and accomplished sci-fi author Peter David. It was also around this time that Sanchez began releasing the recently concluded twelve part comic book mini-series which tells the story encapsulated by the band’s second album, In Keeping Secrets.
Finally, at this July’s San Diego Comic-Con it was announced that Marky Mark himself would help produce with Steven Levinson a film adaptation of The Amory Wars saga.
Now that you’re familiar, you ought to know what the real issue is with the recent announcement. It’s not the script, the budget, the cast, (details of which are non-existent at this early stage); it’s one of honesty and integrity – should an ardent fan of a truly seminal band be excited for a film version of the band’s story whose past adaptations have been less than stellar?
But I’m getting ahead of myself. First I’d like to break down why the aforementioned question is such a difficult one to ask. It’s because the question infers that the graphic incarnations this concept story have had thus far are of subpar quality and even as a critic that just plain stings to even think let alone say out loud or in print. But we fans of Coheed have to be honest with ourselves. No matter how impressive and kick-ass the band’s music is, the comics just don’t stand up well to scrutiny.
At least the first series doesn’t. I bought my complete set of the first ten issues of The Amory Wars, with a bonus copy of the first issue with a variant cover and Sanchez’ autograph, at a Coheed concert at The Electric Factory in Philadelphia in the summer of 2010 with Circa Survive. It was an amazing show and I was stoked to explore my bounty. Once I did so a few times, its novelty began to fade and the critic in me couldn’t help but point out to the fan in me all of the series’ shortcomings.
The art has a noticeable lack of depth (save for the covers completed by Tony Moore of Walking Dead fame) and feels exceedingly cartoonish for such a darkly intense story, the dialogue leaves much to be desired in terms of what feels natural, the pacing is all over the place, there’s no sense of thematic coherence or progression, etc. However, I completely understand why these drawbacks are present – limited time, space, and money definitely force creative individuals into corners – and I like to focus not on these shortcomings but the undeniable potential and inherent badassery these issues contain.
The second series, however, may be a different story. I’ve yet to read it but the changes in artists and writers are enough to suggest good things and I’ve read some positive reviews. The art for the Good Apollo graphic novel stands out as being the most distinct of all the comics and although Sanchez has stated how much he appreciates that artist’s work, the writer has stated that he plans to re-release this story under his Amory Wars title. I did get the chance to read The Black Rainbow, which I enjoyed considerably more than the comics, but I only had the chance to read it once while still very much on the high of enjoying the new accompanying album.
And yet, I’m still positively elated at the prospect of actually seeing this film on the big screen – why?
The reason is that this story Sanchez has been telling was first conceived of when the man was just around nineteen years of age. He is now 34. So that’s about fifteen years of gestation and evolution. Just as the execution of the story has evolved and apparently improved with each new incarnation, I’m of the opinion that given the right environment – one that includes enough financial support to provide Sanchez with the opportunity to tell his fully developed story in a proper fashion – this story could really captivate the mainstream public as much as it has the considerably smaller faction of Coheed fans whom are already devoted followers.
The adaptation will, however, no matter how much money gets thrown at it, be a difficult one to get right. Even assuming Sanchez and company learn from their previous mistakes and take full advantage of this opportunity to do things with fewer constraints, the story is as dark as it is complicated. And I’m not talking about Nolan-dark, or even Community’s darkest timeline-dark; more like Requiem for a Dream levels of fucked up.
Spoilers to follow…
So the story starts to really kick things off when Coheed and Cambria, a working class married couple with four kids, are tricked by the lieutenant of the evil overlord whom rules the galaxy, to murder their children. They poison their two youngest, twins around five years old, and put a hammer through their 20-something daughter’s head. Oh, and the daughter is gang raped for no apparent reason. (I have a real problem with this aspect of the story and would love to deconstruct why I hate it so much, mostly for being at best gratuitous and at worst an insult to rape victims, but that’s a conversation for another article.) And her fiancée is needlessly eaten alive by a giant monster. Oh, and there’s a secret alien race of subjugated people gradually being wiped out and fed to a torturous pocket dimension used to power the star system. So, yeah. Pretty, pretty dark.
As the story unravels, we learn that Coheed and Cambria are actually cyborgs created to defend the universe from apocalyptic threats, but have been manipulated to not only kill off their own family (as the children were the only ones with the means to stop the bad guys), but destroy the massive 78 planet star system in which the story takes place. The couple’s then seventeen year old son, also named Claudio, escapes their misguided and violent attempts at what I’ll generously refer to as euthanasia and eventually discovers that he is destined to be the universe’s savior.
In addition to Coheed and Cambria struggling with the truth of their origins and striving for revenge against those that have ruined their family’s lives, and Claudio coming to terms with being a powerful messianic figure, the story prominently features Jesse, Coheed and Cambria’s “brother”, also a powerful cyborg, who works with the leader of a interplanetary rebellion to overthrow an oppressive and evil regime.
And that’s just the first of eight possible installments so far.
End of Spoilers
This may sound too ridiculous to be taken seriously, but the best stories usually do when they’re described out of context. And more important than all of the story’s flaws thus far are its merits. For all its doom and gloom, The Amory Wars speaks of hope, of change for the better, of the significance in finding one’s true calling and stopping at nothing to defend what’s right and just, even in the face of insurmountable darkness. The bottom line is that Claudio Sanchez is a passionate and capable artist of many talents and considering how long and hard the man has worked to bring his vision to life, I’m willing to bet that given the means he could well be largely responsible for a movie series as seminal as his band’s music. How many of us wish there could be a gritty, no holds barred, hardcore space-pirate saga involving robots and super powers? Just think of how awesome it could be!
The reason you’re reading this, that you watch movies and TV, that you read books, comics, and poetry, that you enjoy any art at all, is that you’re all, deep down, optimists looking ahead with hope for something to inspire, move, and connect us all in these dark times. This movie could do that. So instead of immediately jumping on the Debbie Downer train of pointing out everything that could go horribly awry with this project (and oh so many things can happen, as with any ambitious adaptation), let’s look forward with confidence and excited anticipation at what could be the next Star Wars or Firefly (yeah, I said it).
For a taste of not only the impossibly epic scope through which Coheed and Cambria create their music, but also of the hauntingly evocative tone in which The Amory Wars can (and should) be told, check out these two videos – one being the (extremely) short film created as promotion for the band’s upcoming double album, The Afterman: Ascension and Descension, due out in October and February, respectively, and the other being the official music video for the album’s first single, “Domino the Destitute”, both directed by the very talented Robert Schober.
Are you guys familiar with Coheed and Cambria or The Amory Wars? Do you think it’ll work well on the silver screen, or even make it there at all? Let us know in the comments!
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Great article! Here’s hoping the Amory Wars can someday reach Starwars-like levels. If only so those of us who have been aboard from the beginning can sit that much more smugly! XD
I agree, it is an incredibly rich and deep story. Maybe so deep and rich that instead of the silver screen it is adapted in a way similar to the Game of Thrones. If it was a show, structured similarly, there would be greater oppertunity to explore and create this story in a way that would do it justice. I too hope for the best and can’t wait for future news of this project.
I sadly don’t believe the series has a place on the silver screen. I think the story is too rich and deep to be broken down into a 2 hour block of time. Knowing that Claudio Sanchez himself is now much more into the idea of perfection in his story, I don’t see him allowing it to be hacked into such a small set up without the ability to be sure that there would be sequels. I could see the story working out really well broken into multiple shorter films (think Tin Man).
That would be the golden opportunity in my eyes. I hope for the best and would invest time and support in any direction the story take footing.
Here’s hoping for the best.
Chris didn’t say anything absurdly negative. He just expressed concern and made a casual suggestion. I do not believe he deserves to die in a fire–then again, may be he does. It wouldn’t have anything to do with this comment in particular though.
I know this is an old comment, but I just wanted to say, I get what you’re saying about there being a chance that no sequels can be made. With that being said, I think if they DO make a film for the Amory Wars, they should start with YoTBR (which I’m sure they will, it only makes sense). The way that novel ended, it could be a stand alone movie. *SPOILERS* Wilhelm Ryan is killed (supposedly), Coheed and Cambria get their memories wiped so that they can live out normal lives, and all is well. *END SPOILERS* If a sequel is made, hooray. If not, it’s not like the original movie was left at a cliffhanger or anything. I think it could be done this way.
Coheed are one of the most creative bands around nowadays. Their music is a perfect blend of progressive rock, heavy metal and pop. While I own everything they have ever released, I must admit I am not very strong on the story line. It looks interesting enough though and, if the movie features their great music, it simply can’t fail.
Buy their CDs!!
Ok … I haven’t been this enthused or excited for anything in a long while.
AHHHH
This film shall be AMAZING. Love Coheed & Cambria,love the comics and Claudio’s work, all so awesome!!
I know you said that the story hasn’t been adapted well into comic media, but I believe you haven’t read IKSSE:3. One of the best graphic novels to come out in quite some time. But besides the fact, Claudio plans on remaking Good Apollo and I believe Second Stage Turbine as well.
I agree with you. I was never that much into comics, but my love of Coheed led me to seek out the IKSSE:3 issues, and I was very impressed. For me, seeing actual images of the characters and reading their own thoughts really helped solidify the story for me.
I love the story and would be an incredibly excited fan, the story is so much more complex than just being a sci fi story, and it would be the star wars of this generation.
This would be the highlight of my life. Since I started listening to Heed I’ve said that they need to make a movie out of the story! This would be the happiest day of my life.
The next Star Wars…love it :) Of course Claud will get it there
This sounds like something right up Joss Whedon’s alley. He could do here what he never got to finish with Firefly. As long as Claudio is involved there would be no stopping a movie adaptation from succeeding.
I, personally, am extremely excited for this. I have a little part of me that is terrified of it coming out bad, and I’m sure everyone else (that knows what the Amory Wars is) does too, but I have complete faith in Claudio’s judgement. I’m just hoping for the best. <3 Can't come any sooner!
love Claudio Favorite artist, and The Marky Markster! Hell’s yes it can!
I’m super excited about the movie, but I think we’ve read the stories in two different ways. I maintian that this is a transmedial story (a story told across multiple media, where each media explores the story differently, like Star Wars, Star Trek, Dr Who, The Matrix etc) rather than an adaptation. This significantly shifts how you read/engage with the texts. In adaptations we read for similarities and differences, and we try to determine a canonical version of the story. We normally privilege the first (published) version of the text as the Ur-text (rather than the first text that we come into contact with, although that one also shapes how we conceptualise the story as a whole. For example, consider whether you saw the Disney adaptation of Alice in Wonderland first or whether you read/had read to you Lewis Carrol’s book first). This privilegeing of narrative form and textual space is nonsensical in transmediality as each medium has a different, but equally valuable, purpose. Transmedial stories are read in the spaces between the texts; physical, temporal and imaginative (I call these “lacunae”. They require active readership: you need to do your homework, search out information.
So instead of searching out better/worse versions, just try reading them together. Hold the music in your ears when you read the books or the twitter feed. Remember the illustrations when you’re in the middle of a mosh pit, singing the choral line to Welcome Home. Immerse yourself in the story, corporealise it. Most importantly, respond to it. Create your own meaning within the lacunae.
Nerdout over.
Honestly, I’m excited about the prospect of an Amory Wars film. I’m one of those tenacious fanboys that, when obsessed, I don’t let go of something. Watching Max Payne, although not a terribly good film, I enjoyed Mark Wahlberg’s portrayal of the character of Max and I can see him pulling off Coheed. Even if the film is a let down and not as spectaculasr as it could be I’ll still go out and buy the Blu Ray, purely in support. I do that. Maybe it makes me weird but hey.
First of all, a quick look at IMDB confirms my suspicion that Stephen (not Steven) Levinson has nothing to do with Leverage, but instead worked with Wahlberg on Entourage.
The In Keeping Secrets Amory Wars comics are definitely an improvement over the Second Stage Turbine Blade, and it’s pretty clear that keeping Peter David involved as a co-writer on the comic book was a big help. This leads me to think that the only way an Amory Wars movie succeeds is if an accomplished, talented screenwriter get involved. There are a lot of cool ideas in C&C’s saga, but the storytelling has often been clunky at best. Just look at the impenetrability of their lyrics; trying to suss out the story using just the songs is difficult at best, particularly in the first two albums.
What Claudio Sanchez needs is a person who can work with him to streamline his story (especially effectively explaining the setting without resorting to a Star Wars-style crawl or characters who just spout nonstop exposition), as well as write freaking dialogue. And that’s just the first step. All the other stuff that goes into a movie- budget, casting, special effects- also needs to come together for this to be pulled off.
In other words, the announcement that a pair of guys who are best known (at least as producers) for shepherding a Hollywood-insider comedy that lasted 8 seasons but peaked in seasons 3-4 are investing in this didn’t fill me with confidence. I’ll believe it’s actually happening when I’m in the theater watching it, and even then, I’ll probably be watching with fingers crossed that it doesn’t completely suck.
Totally agreed. While the story is conceptualy exciting, its execution has been lacking. Incorrect punctuation, passive voice and convoluted but nonsensical language (that I presume is meant to sound medieval and therefore authoratative?) litter the comics and novel. You can get away with them in music because poetry is meant to break grammatical conventions, but honestly the story is too hypermasculinised to justify feminised language construction in the codex texts.
Great article. My friends and I (avid Coheed fans) are more along the optimistic route. Even if the movie is awful many fans will still think it’s great. Though we hope it’ll be a rock opera with the band members fading in and out (in the screen corners). With Claudio occasionally flinging his hair back.
This adaptation has the potential to be an unbelievable cult classic. I wish C&C the best for a hugely popular and lucrative major movie release, but as the author mentioned, Firefly is so great because it is a cult favorite and as a devoted Child of the Fence, I like the nerdy, almost fringe aspect of being a dedicated fan. Coheed and Cambria are my diversion from all that is fake, plastic and mass produced in the music industry today. As I write this, there is a banner ad for the movie Battleship below this box. I wish nothing more than for The Amory Wars movie to be the polar opposite of that massively re-manufactured albatross of Transformers CGI. Give me dark and gritty any day. Make it rated R.
A film adaptation of The Amory Wars would be a dream come true provided they cut as few corners as possible. To me, The Amory Wars is The Dark Tower of the music world. This gritty, dark, and impossibly complex universe is exactly what we need to see. If you’re asking me if I want to see this made, or if I think we are ready for it I say Bring It! We are ready!
I would love to see this on the big screen. I do know there may be disappointments with the film adaptation, but there is SOOOO much in these stories, it’d be impossible to fit everything in the movie (or movies) or at best, fit everything in it but reduce quality of the story. Either way, it’ll at least be entertaining!
This would be so dope! I think it’ll be a flop if you try and pack the whole series into one movie but if you break it up by album. Except maybe start with YoTBR instead of waiting to explain the story ’till after it ends (where have we seen that before…)
I really love this article. And i sooo agree. Also i feel that coheed and cambria make me feel every emotion possible (plus others i didnt know excisted). I soo dont want this movie to disappoint but claudio is a genius (you have to remember that. He has toooo much passion. I know he would never give anything short of amazing.
Honestly, I think it would be best as a series done well, like “The Walking Dead”. But, I series of movies could do well, too. I hope they do it right-I’m totally excited! (And I agree-the first comic run wasn’t impressive-however, the second try did grab me, and I greatly enjoyed the novel adaptation, too. Here’s hoping!)
Mixed feelings, about this. Though, I’ve listened to Coheed, for years, I’ve never read, the comics, partially, out of lack, of opportunity, but also, because I felt, a comic, wouldn’t hold, the same, deep mystery, and imagination, of the songs. I wanted, to imagine.
Now, though I want, ti see the movie, I have, the same, reservations. I just hope, it can hold, the same, riveting power, the music does, for me.
For the life of me, I adore Coheed & Cambria, and I concur that the Amory Wars has thus far been best represented with the prequel of The Black Rainbow as a novel, rather than a comic, to which I own all and still find lackluster.
But I really struggle to see it as a movie. As much as I love C&C, the story is incomplete in so many ways, which is why I loved the novel so much. The novel forced Sanchez to fill in the gaps between the songs, something I felt was severely missing in the previous albums; there was no real connection. Equally, I would assume they start from Second Stage Turbine Blade, which would mean writing entirely new parts to the story inbetween the current songs, as the comics did little to really fill the gaps (something that also irritated me, and why I truly hope that eventually a novel is released to accompany every album).
But if it did make it to the big screen, and if the gaps were well written, and it had a good director and (agreeing with the author here, I don’t see the absolute point in it really and have an issue with it in almost all stories, it’s far too mediated at the moment) see that Devil In Jersey City is better suited to the story, it could be something a lot of us have been waiting a long time for.
And besides. Any movie with Coheed & Cambria’s music in it is good, but a movie OF Coheed & Cambria’s music can only be better. Hell, just the trailer for “9″ having Welcome Home in it convinced me to watch it.
I believe if they do it right, this film ( or films) have potential to be like the Harry Potter films. Although Coheed doesn’t have a gigantic fan base I feel like the movie would be a great push for more reach in the Sci-fi market.I’m curious as to how they are going to break it down for everyone not familiar with the story or the band.
I am so stoked for this to happen. When I heard that Mark Wahlberg and Steven Levinson were doing it i literally shouted “YES!” out loud at work. I am a pretty die hard fan of Coheed and Cambria and the story they have created through their music. I truly believe any film adaptation will be a very good translation. If their music was played at certain parts of the movies that corresponded with the events in those songs, I think that would be simply amazing. This band is my favorite band and definitely one of the only bands that while be tattooed on myself and I cannot wait to see how the film turns out and to listen to the Afterman. Walk among the fence guys and gals. -matt.
I will say, this is probably going to be a pretty great article, since the subject matter is awesome; however, finding two grammatical errors, a spelling mistake, and a run-on sentence comparable to Forrest Gump’s philosophy of avoiding bad situations is just too much.
I almost feel as though I can’t read on. Grammar nazi’s pointing out mistakes on the internet happens far too often and, as a writer, I’m sure you’re quite irritated when receiving posts/comments blasting your work. I apologize for bringing this to your attention in such a manner, but I felt you should know:
1.) Whom: http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/who-versus-whom.aspx (Maybe this will clear it up, my explanation won’t be very helpful)
2.) “Imagine if you [were] a band…”
3.) Subject confusion “…as [you] are Iron Maiden…” (Unless, that is, you’re referring to how At The Drive-In was influenced by Iron Maiden)
Correct me if I’m wrong, for I may be mistaken on some of this; but, please… proofread.
1) whom is used to refer to the object of a sentence, who is used to refer to the subject (“you” is the subject in the opening sentence and “a band” is the object, in case you don’t know the difference)
2) i said “would” and not “were” because i wasn’t asking you to imagine yourself as the band, try re-reading
3) it’s not subject confusion, it’s reader confusion. i’m saying coheed is influenced by both iron maiden and at the drive-in.
i appreciate you being so polite, but sean, YOU need to proofread.
I was at that same show Joe, picked up the complete set and bonuses then too. Pretty awesome read! Good work!
As with the other commentors I see who have posted already seem to be… I am One Among The Fence (“the faction of devoted fans”) and have been for a decade already. I am what some might call “extremely dedicated /borderline ridiculous” about it. Anyway… I can’t speak for everyone but I know I’m not alone with this take on it:
I love the band & their music as well as have all the comics and graphic novels and books as well as a lot of concert or gig posters (what to get when you’ve bought all of their licensed merch already).
I’m really excited for this prospect and always felt this story could be be developed into movies and video games but I think an HBO series might be a better vehicle for this type of saga. I’m protective of it too knowing that 2 hours… even three hours is not a lot of time to tell this story. I trust Claudio & company and know he can pull this off. I just hope whoever finances it and works with him have the same faith in his talents.
It’s going to be a challenge- no doubt about that…and if it gets made into a feature motion picture & released… I’ll be right there opening night with a lot of other awesome people hoping for the best and showing support for its creators!
I don’t want to see what happened to the Tenacious D movie happen to this one. The “D” are great and made a funny movie that has brought in more money than it cost to make… yet still considered it “A bomb” because it ONLY made a few million bucks opening weekend. I saw that movie specifically on that Sunday JUST so my dollars counted for it’s opening weekend take. But it didn’t help. The Tenacious D movie was widely criticized and I hated that everybody trashed on something I loved and thought was funny and frankly BETTER and more entertaining than so much other crap out there. Jack Black and Kyle Gass are super talented and I feel made exactly the movie that their band should make… The Pick of Destiny.
Coheed and Cambria is not a comedy act though and I realize The Amory Wars is a different kind of story which might make it MORE challenging.
I just don’t want it to get beat up opening weekend because it doesn’t bring in 20 million dollars. That has no accurate bearing on its artistic merit… which I assume will be good, but might not be “everybody’s cup of tea”.
So… in a nutshell: I’m REALLY excited yet I’m skeptically protective of something I’m very passionate about and hoping for the best!
You did a very good job writing this article by the way, Joseph.
Thank you!
BEEN HOPING FOR THIS FOR A LONG TIME!FINALLYYY~~~~
I can not wait for The Amory Wars to make it onto the big screen! Here’s hoping that we get to see it soon!
I agree with Christopher. I don’t think something with this large a scope would translate well into a 2 hr format, even spanned over the length of 3 films..Also, Mark Wahlberg? Really? With that said, I’ll still be there opening night, if just to show support for one of my favorite bands.
I want this. From the first time I heard Welcome Home I had to have more. As each piece of the story entered my consciousness the details within the bigger picture became more intriguing. A movie adaptation would just be the last pieces of the jigsaw I’d need. Perhaps I’m easily pleased, but I know what I like and I like what Sanchez has worked so hard and long to convey. I want this, like I wanted more Star Wars movies in 1997, like I want Firefly to be brought back to life.
I won’t care what the quality of the movie is as long as I have the whole story.
I thinks this could be done in a 3 hour movie. As long as they keep it theatrical in the vein of Nolans’s Dark Knight and not campy like the old TV series. They almost have to approach it, in my opinion, like no one in the theater knows that Coheed and Cambria’s music tells the story. A majority of the people in the theater probably won’t until they approach the long line outside the theater of people in Co&Ca t-shirts.
Excellent article. I can’t wait for the new albums, and if done well with a big budget, the movie is going to be AWESOME!
I’ve listened to a 30 sec. part of Welcome Home on the ’9′ movie trailer and i haven’t let 24 hours pass without my ears enjoying a Coheed & Cambria’s song ever again.
I’m pretty excited about this movie thing, but, as a lot of you commenting here, i’m not able to see it as a 2hrs. movie. It has to be a saga, and i’m thinking a harry potter-like saga. 8 movies. At least.
I can imagine it being a big success, but it has to be very well written and told. As even we, who have read the comics and listened to their albums, are having a hard time putting the pieces in their right position and being able to see the big picture accurately.
I’m waiting for the film(s), but first, the next double album.
Pd. The rape in the comics has very much sense to me, since rapes occur everyday, everywhere, and without a single f–king reason more than just a guy – or a bunch of ‘em for this matter – being horny and having serious mental issues. I see it as an example of murphy’s law, ‘if it can get worse, it will get worse’ (y’know with the hammer and stuff).
I love Coheed’s Music, loved YOBR the novel and am really excited about them doing a movie. I’ll treat my boys and their friends to it, like I have done their concerts!Good luck Claudio, make it happen
Agree with your assessment of the Second Stage Comics, those were a mess and it pains me to say it because the ideas and storyline were very compelling but it just wasn’t done right. The next series In Keeping Secrets, however, is a completely different beast. The writing and artwork is light years ahead of Second Stage and I have to say it was a very intense read. Can’t wait for the Good Apollo Comics.
The story just isn’t good at all. Nothing follows. Everything is random. People get raped by gangs for no reason. Seriously, it’s bad.
Coheed are awesome musicians but the comics are really terrible. They’re going to have to change a lot if this is ever going to get made. I hope the studio gets some good screenwriters to help Claudio out.
why are you even here if you’re hating on it soo much. I dare you to go to a coheed show an look a group of fans in the eye and tell them the comics are terrible. Try it and see what happens.No matter how this movie turns out, as long as Claudio Sanchez is involved i know i’ll love it and instantly make it my favorite movie. I imagine the same with thousands of other fans out there. One Among The Fence
If this is Solar (from Seattle) than I have to vouch that he is One among the Fence and has been to many Coheed Shows. I’ve seen him at least at 5 of them in Puyallup, Spokane, Auburn, & Seattle I’m honestly surprised to hear him say that about the story. He is a very dedicated fan… though everyone is entitled to their opinion. Apparently he doesn’t care for the story much.
It undoubtedly can become a great movie. I’m not saying I don’t want it to stay faithful to the story, but even if it swayed much, the badass-ary of any part of it would look great on the big screen.
I can’t wait to see this in movie form! Been following Coheed since second stage, and Claudio is definitely the hardest working man in show business! I just hope ol’ Marky Mark can really give this concept the backing and time it deserves…and we could have a dynasty on our hands!
Go Coheed!
Honestly, I have no idea if it would or wouldn’t be a great movie, but it does have the capability in my opinion. One can only hope that it turns out amazing. And hell, if Twilight can somehow pull a full series of movies out of their ass, The Amory Wars stands a REALLY good chance. >.>.. God, Twilight sucked. xD
At any rate, the part you mentioned about Josephine being raped for no apparent reason. It did seem to fuel Claudio’s hatred for his parents for a while after he learned what happened. His sister gets raped, goes home to try seeking comfort from her loving parents, only to be murdered by her father while her mother watches and does nothing to stop it? It helped to set the mood for Claudio Kilgannon’s character and such.
I agree that the Second Stage Turbine Blade comic is not too good. I mean, it’s good, but as you say, it has flaws. I really expected something else – at least stylistically – after just knowing the music. But I kinda like them nevertheless :)
As for your question: I’d really LOVE to see Amory Wars on the screen! BUT I’d prefer a series to a movie, I think. As has been said by others, it’s too complicated for a movie, even if you make it several movies. Problem is: I’d love to see it on the BIG screen too! :s Well, even if they’d choose to make movies they’d probably not show it/them in cinema here in Germany :< So I don't care.
But now that it's started, I really WANT any kind of screen adaptation :)
Everyone, thank you so much for all the kind words and support, you really don’t know how much they mean to me. And I can’t express what a pleasure it is to read so many intelligent, well thought out responses! I’d like to answer many of these comments individually, especially those with specific references to various Coheed songs, shows, and story elements, but for now, let me just express my immense gratitude to you all. It’s such a blessing to not be alone as one among the fence.
First of all, epic article. I had goosebumps half the time I was reading it. Secondly, I’m optimistic that if/when this story is given the amount of respect, money, time and talent to bring it to the theaters as it deserves, it’s going to be something truly amazing that captivates the hearts and minds of millions of people. I feel it can’t really be done right unless it’s made into a four movie series, at least. It’s going to broaden Coheed’s fanbase exponentially if it’s done right.
I don’t beleive Claudio should rush through the story with one movie. He should either do the prequal first, or he should start where the comics begin. Either way I think the movie should have the same feel as listening to Second Stage Turbine Blade. Eerily dark, hauntingly quiet at times, and upbeat in the fills where it needs to be. Either way it should be a trilogy or an ongoing series I think. although it’s gonna take some awesome directing to make a captivating low budget dramatic first part to the series without boring the hell outa everyone. Another idea would be to start the series off with Claudio(comic book version)starting off with all his powers, and in hiding…then take a Martin Scorcese, Quinten Tarentino style approach to the rest of the film with flashbacks and premonitions that all add up in the end. Ah hell. What do i know about film making? Just don’t let it suck Claudio, lol.
This film could be the greatest thing to happen to the movie industry in decades. Get Scorsese and Sanchez as all time producers and creative consultants on set. Have Buscemi & Wahlberg direct and we’re golden.
I’ve listened to Coheed for quite a while, and if this ever happens I’m going to jizz myself with excitement. Love the band, love the music, love the story… I hope the movie pulls through and is totally-break the scale-over the top badass.
CULT CLASSIC IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!
This. Truth.
But I think I make a decent case for looking at the growth of the story and the various media in which it’s told as cause for hope that a compelling and sophisticated version could be released.
I highly recommend using the short film/promo by Schober as a lens through which to imagine such a version.
Have you guys not seen any of their music videos? The select videos with ties to a story are all average at worst, and those are with music video directors (not to discredit). Levinson has a very sound resume. Throw in Claudio..what could go wrong?
This movie could be awful and I would absolutely love it either way. The story that Claudio has spun in the bands lyrics has captivated me and my friends since day one. I’ve always been a huge fan of a good story and this is one that I continue to enjoy. I can not wait for this movie to come out.