When Lionsgate took the decision to screen the as-then unreleased Dredd 3D in July at San Diego’s Comic Con International, it played to collective cheers from the attendant fans. Early word was good… in fact, better than good. This was something special. A decidedly British vision of a US dystopia a century from now; grim and bloody, it featured hypnotic visuals by an Oscar-winning cinematographer, rendering visceral violence with a surreal beauty, and combined that with action movie-making the likes of which had not seen since the excesses of Paul Verhoeven’s Sci-Fi holy trinity: Robocop, Total Recall and Starship Troopers.
By Hollywood standards, this was a modestly budgeted movie (measured against Hollywood Sci Fi, it’s actually low-budget). Conversely, for a British production, the supposed $45 million production (excluding marketing) represented the biggest independently produced Brit movie of all time. Writer/producer Alex Garland and fellow staff at DNA Films spent many years in pre-production, giving centre-stage to the much-loved UK comic character (Judge Dredd has appeared in the pages of weekly comic anthology 2000AD for the past 35 years). Regardless of budget being big or small, this had clearly been a labour of love for the creative talents involved.
So, how confident must they have felt, directly following Comic Con, when those first reviews started to appear? The initial fan reaction was matched by an equally enthusiastic critical appraisal. Better yet, it seemed the American audience actually got the pitch black humour, that satirical edge so present in the pages of the source material. Tantalisingly, Karl Urban’s performance of the central character was described by all as the definitive Dredd.
It looked like the sleeper hit of the year, already in the bag. Even before release, there was talk of a sequel; then, that Dredd was the first of a possible trilogy of movies penned by Garland. Hardcore Dredd-heads salivated at talk of the Dark Judges, Dredd’s pilgrimage into the Cursed Earth, the Angel Gang…. all this before the movie opened at the start of September for UK audiences (two weeks later in the US). Regardless of worldwide takings, a box-office pull of $50 million in US theatres was the mooted figure to guarantee a green light for the sequel.
Word was already out – Dredd 3D was precisely what mature audiences wanted to see. Hard R-rated action. Something that didn’t pander to the teen market. A concept that acted as calling card – here’s just a taste of what’s to come. This was going to be BIG.
Only – it wasn’t.
At time of writing, it’s the start of October, one month later, and the results are in. And Dredd has perfomed abysmally, both at home in the UK, then even worse in the US – falling out of the top ten movies there in only its second week. By any measure, it’s a commercial wreck.
Had the film been slated by the critics or hated by the fans, this might not matter. Lousy films tank all the time, and rightly so.
But here is a movie deemed not only worthy of merit – it also offered something a little different within its own genre trappings. It should have played to a much bigger audience than it did, even if it didn’t reach that magic $50 million line in the sand. And at current standing – the film has barely reached a fifth of that amount – it looks like a sequel is never going to happen.
When I saw Dredd 3D on that opening weekend, I left the cinema feeling I’d seen something pretty remarkable. I decided before I’d even got home that I needed to see it again. Even before the terrible box office results were calculated, though, I’d had my own concerns. Why was there only a dozen people in the same screening, or even less the next time I went back? I know a lot of people who go to the movies – yet none of them paid money to see Dredd.
So. What went wrong?
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The R-rated Expendables 2 earning $85million in the US and $250 million worldwide suggests the violent action film is far from dead.
I cant even begin to put into words how disapointed i am that the global movie going audience hasnt given this TRULY FANTASTIC re-imagining of Dredd the attention it so thoroughly merits. The movie deserves so much more than the lack of interest been shown. Dredd is a very special comic book movie that for once doesnt insult your intelligence and delivers a real punch. For me, it just goes to show the dumbing down of audiences that has been going on since the 90′s. If u havent seen Dredd yet, stop being a moron and go check it out. Its money better spent than going to watch Vampires act crap in Twilight!
It’s simple. This movie violated several “hit movie rules” AND didn’t update for the times. In the 80′s, large plastic looking props were considered “modern”, but times have changed. Example: Dredd’s bike looked like a 1985 rendition of a futuristic motorcycle from the future. Why would you not follow the social model that has proven effective, i.e. Kawasaki makes slim, streamline “light” looking bikes…aka less is more. Look how large his helmet was….ever seen a navy seal wearing night vision? It’s slim trim and modern…not something from “The Whiz”. The main antagonist had no momentum. You get thrown INTO a bulding lockdown with some ex-prostitute that took over a building, CUT: Action: now Judge Dredd is on the run in a locked down building by a “super villain”?
Hanz Gruber from Die Hard built momentum as an elaborate genius mind with NO sense of humanity and driven by greed. McClane was the proverbial “fly in the ointment” to his OTHERWISE elaborate genius plan…then they bled Gruber to death until the Hero extinguished the “evil”…clever banter, make-shift efficiency by McClane NOT planned for by the evil genius.
And third…a little too much cheese on these nachos. Times have changed, the superpower bad Guy/Gal doesn’t yell “Fire!” and then unleash heavy artillery fire across the building breezeway. This is 2013! It has to be clever!! Calmly stating “Fumigate these roaches” BANG BANG BANG etc… Golly Gee willikers batman doesn’t work anymore.. “FIRE!” is for civil war movies or battleships…
SOME realistic touches would have STILL probably salvaged this movie which had ALL the needed OTHER points…awesome effects (SLOW MO) etc…
But don’t have pathetically puzzling opening sequences where the “street thug” holds a gun to a hostage’s head, while the hero thats ALREADY sentenced him to life in prison (I believe we call that nothing left to lose) stands like a moron right out in the open…I’m confused, why doesn’t the bad guy just crank rounds into Dredd’s neck while hidden behind a hostage? It’s the LITTLE things that KILL movies like this. It’s as if they had %80 RIGHT….but the final %20 put this movie to death.
Trust me, finishing touches would have made the 3D theaters explode by word of mouth ALONE….have you ever heard of Pulp Fiction? Or the 300? HUGE, because of the DETAILS….I still enjoyed this movie because I love cheese with my nachos enough to spend the money…but I realize the rest of my movie going public brethren aren’t sheltered folk from Mayberry anymore. People today prefer lean, mean and hard hitting. This movie was hard hitting on the camera FX, but was HEAVY and mean without momentum as to why……
PS…”Rookie?” ….really? How about BOOT! A REAL police term that sounds more street grit “Training Day” than “The Sandlot”.
Prometheus, Expendables 2, and Resident Evil Retribution all were R rated violent movies and had no issue making decent box office.
I loved Dredd and I am upset it did not do better than it did. I am not sure what to think. I think the issues you raised are certainly part of he reason but I would also add:
1) there were no big “names” attached to the movie especially given that Karl Urban did not remove his helmet. No one knew any of the characters except for maybe Lena Headey.
2) I think (at least here in the US in late August) the summer box office season is over with students heading back to school, it distracts (and detracts) from the money spent on entertainment especially given the higher price of ticket prices, prevalence of movie piracy; and the numerous other options including a fall TV season and availability of other movies on DVD; and
3) As much as I loved the movie, it is VERY difficult to relate to Urban’s character thus decipher what motivates him. The movie is “made” by his interaction with Olivia Thirby’s character. If you took that out then it would be a cop in a violent shootout and that is it. The main character does not offer depth. I get that it is faithful to the comic but in order to know the character, it needed to peel away at his psyche quickly. In a comic book a character can be developed over years because essentially the story does not end. Not so in a movie.
I do hope they try again. Serenity was a a great movie that also did not do well yet had all of the things I just indicated that Dredd did not…so I don’t know it is a hard thing to call.
You’re not supposed to relate to Dredd’s character. Did you relate to Dirty Harry? In fact I’d say you get to know a lot more about Dredd than Harry Callaghan in the first DH film.
No I did not relate to Dirty Harry in his movies and that is the point. That is WHY you don’t see Dirty Harry (or some knock off) anymore. Having characters just go out and enforce ‘the law” is no longer in vogue. it was 40 YEARS AGO! That time has passed. back then, there were WAY too many of those movies including Stallone’s Cobra, Schwarzenegger’s Commando, Bronson’s Death Wish and a host of cheap copies. The genre was over saturated. It is no coincidence that Dirty Harry came out in 1971 and Dredd in 1977. Just like the hyper-violent police drama that Dirty Harry started, Dredd cannot continue in the same vein and think people will respond to it in the same way.
Let me start out by saying that this is a brilliant movie. The points I’m making here is merely on the dificulty of selling the movie.
It’s the marketing. The problem was obvious in the trailer. It had no humor…..none. You got to be living on another planet if you think you can sell an unknown action property with no laughs. But since the movie itself actually didn’t have any humor, it’s kinda understandable that the trailer didn’t either. So they would have to find some other selling point. Which they didn’t. And that is big trouble.
This is a brilliantly written review! Thank you. Perhaps at the end of the day what needs to be sadly accepted, is that we live in an era driven by market share, demographic targeting & bland commercialism. To have a visionary sci-fi film of this calibre which doesn’t pander to the dictations of the above criteria, is simply a triumph in its very existence. Many of the greatest sci-fi films have had beginnings as lack-lustre as “Dredd”, but have gone on to inspire generations. This film counts! As an aside, being a fellow Kiwi, I rate Karl Urban’s “Dredd” as a definitive & titan performance.
I saw Dredd 3D at the cinema, and even after just the first week of release, the cinema was empty, 4 people in there tops.
I’ll be honest, I used to be a fan of the Dredd comic books, but this film wasn’t as incredible as everyone was saying. It’s a good film no doubt (and one of the better ones this summer) but the fact that it was essentially The Raid without the martial arts (a film I saw in cinema just months prior) made me just feel like I was watching the same film, just an inferior version. It’s soooo similar, and thats a real shame. Urban was a good Dredd, but The Raid nailed this plot so well that there was no chance of this working.
A fair, insightful, and very accurate review overall. I think ‘Dredd’ will ultimately find it’s audience on home release, and I wouldn’t be surprised if – unencumbered by competition, lackluster advertising, and inflated 3-D ticket prices – it exceeds expectations upon release, and sells like gangbusters… but it would need to exceed the $100m benchmark in overall (theatrical + home release sales combined) takings by summer or fall next year, and still be selling strong, to be in with a chance of a sequel even being considered.
If it achieves the improbable, and a sequel is granted, it wouldn’t even need to be a considerably larger budget; they should drop the 3-D, give it a $45m-plus budget, put the full weight of said budget behind production values alone, and make the pro-democracy terrorism/Cursed Earth storyline that screenwriter Alex Garland has mentioned in recent interviews… not only would it be achievable with the budget they have, would give viewers an accurate representation of the full strata of Dredd’s world, and would also fit right into the more gritty, heightened realistic look and tone they are going for with this current adaptation.
CCDEV there, clearly not understanding on any fundamental level the perameters of the budget box that Team DREDD 3D had to play in. Also totally dismissing the 3rd highest grossing movie of all time and the movie widley celebrated by critics and fans alike as a new bench mark for future genre movies. Way to go CCDEV! Round of applause for that insightful movie fan!
The film was sabotaged by the writer and the plot he wrote. If you think about it… if you were making a Judge Dredd film what would be the film’s UNIQUE SELLING POINT? What would make it stand out from other action films, from other comic book films? A Die Hard type plot? Of course not. That would just reinforce people’s view the film is unoriginal. You see how Garland totally screwed it up by having zero imagination.
It doesn’t matter if the characterization of Dredd is good – and pretty much everyone has praised Dredd 3D for the characterization of Judge Dredd – if the plot is a rehash of other stuff most people will realize that. “I’m not paying 3D ticket prices to see a rehash of other films, I’ll wait till it’s on Netflix or DVD.” And that’s what’s happened. The film’s USP wasn’t there, it felt like a rehash of other plots, the film didn’t grab enough people’s attention. It was imperative Judge Dredd 2 (the new film) had something fresh, something about the plot that was wholly specific to the Dredd world universe. It didn’t. This was a catastrophic mistake.
This review sums up the fundamental problem with Dredd 3D:
“”Don’t get me wrong, I like a movie with high body count as much as the next person – Perhaps a better way to put it is I don’t mind the body count if it serves a purpose like the fast paced Bourne movies (at least the ones with Matt Damon ). What I do not find entertaining is when the high body count is the entire point of the movie; the result of a script that was no doubt written on the back of a paper napkin in a Hollywood fast food restaurant. The script is no doubt direct and to the point and runs something like this:
Judge Dredd enters building.
Judge Dredd shoots bad guys
Unfortunately, that really is all that happens in the movie, albeit in slow motion.”
http://noprisonersnomercy.com/2012/09/dredd-3d-you-have-been-judged-meh/
The film didn’t have enough freshness to pull in an audience.
They should have used your screenplay, Scott.
Loved the movie and when we saw it almost 2 weeks after release, Cineworld in Edinburgh was packed! Seems to be an anomaly which is a shame.
Dek, I also absolutely loved it. Really glad to hear your cinema was packed. I’m in New Zealand, and the cinema was moderately full. Dredd is still screening weeks later so people must still be going. I’m seeing it again next week.
Dredd was miles better than that overrated slice of corn and cheese.
‘Predator’ is a dumb teenager’s idea of what a great action movie is. Not even in the same ballpark as the likes of Die Hard (a vastly superior movie from McTiernan), or Aliens, or The Bourne Supremacy.
Dredd was a no-go for me because of so-called “3D”. I will buy it on BluRay in December or January when it goes on release. That’s why it didn’t get me into the cinema. Hopefully when enough “3D” films flop, the message will get across.
I think Dredd failed in a number of elements. They should have cast a big name as the bad guy. Drop 3D (obviously). With the huge variety of stories any one of them were unique to films and would have been great. “Boing” for instance, a storyline where a technology used in theme parks is illegally used in the city (think base-jumping inside a rubber ball) cases death and chaos in Mega City One, which would then lead to Anderson’s imprisonment of Judge Death in the next film… If I can think of better stories, what the drokk did THEY spend $50M on? 3D and slo-mo probably.
Also, if Anderson took her helmet off, she could have asked Dredd why he didn’t – he could then reply “I never take my helmet off” which explains to the audience who don’t know this and raises the mystery of “why?”.
They had a marketing budget? I’d never have known, first I heard about the film was while idly flicking through cinema listings while stranded in Milton Keynes on a training course. The ’3D’ in the title was immediately offputting because I knew there would be some of those ‘WOW LOOK 3D!!!!!!111′ forced moments, and … yes it has a few. 3D gives me headaches, but luckily they had a 2D screening. It was at 7pm in the evening, too early generally for a single showing of an 18 rated film. Despite the stupid timing, the screen was about a third full – thats a third of a screen of people who specifically wanted to see a 2D showing.
I think a lot of people (even those who like it) are sick to the back teeth of having 3D rammed down their throats, and having “3D” in the film title just sent all the wrong messages. Everyone I know who has seen it, enjoyed it – especially the portrayal of Judge Anderson which was a pretty tough role.
I expect it’ll turn a profit from Blu-Ray sales.
So it flopped because Americans are morons. This is why we can’t have nice things, the fat ones ruin something amazing with their ignorance. Words can’t describe how angry I am about this flopping. I went even though I despised 3d, I even organised days out for people to watch this and sang its praises every way I could. But a man can not fight a wave.
Great movie. Remember 1986 saw another SciFi action film do nothing at u.s. boxoffice. It somehow spawned four terrible sequels. Highlander. Point being if there is enough cult status someone will finance a sequel.
Poor marketing, and a distinct lack of hype killed this movie! Lets hope DVD/Blu-ray sales make up for the poor box office results, and word of mouth gives the film the cult status it rightly deserves!
“What we’re left with is a brilliantly bold and ambitious film that will without doubt become the cult classic it set out to be. Time will be kind to Dredd.”
Exactly.
I for one didn’t watch it because there was NO 2-D versions of the films on the theaters.
I’m blind of one eye so 3d for me and about 5% of the population is nothing more than paying higher prices and wearing silly glasses.
This movie was the big suprise for me of recent years.
At once subtle and visceral.
Ugly and beautiful.
The 3D was used so cleverly to accentuate the effects of the slo-mo that you actually ‘feel’ like you are looking through the eyes of the user.
The dark and ‘colourless’ distopian future suddenly transformed and ‘brought to life’ by the illicit substance.
The beauty of the water droplets in Ma-ma’s bath, the heightened sense of movement and colour, the ‘beauty’ of the violence with the blood spray and the shock waves of the bullet paths through flesh, like high speed film of projectile tests on ballistic gel.
It reminded me of the old saying. It was a ‘car crash’, you didn’t want to watch, but you couldn’t look away.
For me the only disapointments were where the film ignored the source material.
No robots, no bizarre fashions, in fact barely ‘futuristic’ in many ways.
I still think that this was a solid 8.5/10 movie which tried and managed to do something ‘different’.
If the sequel could skip any cursed Earth sillyness and focus on Anderson, Death and ‘boing’ then I would have been a happy camper!
*sigh* not to be now, I guess.
There is only one overshadowing reason why Dredd failed and it is NOT because it was a bad movie. Exactly the opposite. There was always so much going on on-screen (so much to view, to consider, to appreciate, that people decided to wait til it was on DVD/Blueray so that at home they could pause, review, fast forward, or close-caption it. Bottom line here is they wanted a home viewing so they could totally savor the movie bit by bit.
I didn’t see Dredd in theaters for many of the reasons you mentioned. Mainly the cost of a ticket for 3D, a format that I don’t particularly enjoy. My own financial circumstances also meant cutting back on films this year. I did just watch the film today and I really did like it and now almost feel bad for not giving it support in theaters. I think that Dredd will be fondly remembered in years to come. It was a smart, well written and directed action film that (like so many others) will be more appreciated on home video. I don’t like to use the term “Cult Classic” but I feel Dredd is a cult classic in the waiting. All it will take is time.
I think its a really great film, the fact its gone back to basics, helmet stays on, no cheesy lines, & straight to the point makes it refreshing. Dredd is dark, mega city 1 is dark thats the way the film should be. Please do a sequal and keep Karl Urban as Dredd. Give this film time it will become a classic. Just market the film a little better other wise a great film.
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I saw Dredd and it was not bad but far away from great!
It’s in one builing and most of the peoble want to see more from Dredds world.
I think the budget was to low for a great epic Judge Dredd movie.
The movie now feels more like a TV-Movie or direct to DVD.
But on the other side they had a budget from 35 Million Dollar and shoot in South-Africa who is realy cheap so i think for that money you can expect more!
The film shares a striking resemblance, to the highly successful movie “The Raid” and I’m disappointed that Dredd wasn’t more successful; but I admire the filmmakers for sticking to their guns and not compromising on the R rated gore.
Admittedly, this was to the detriment of the box office takings, and I hope that Dredd makes it to a second film, so that we can see more of the sprawling metropolis that is Mega City One.
But I still think that it could have been marketed better, and as for the R rating…I was actually more attracted to the idea of the film bursting with ‘ultra-violence’.
“…if you want to see someone get shot in the face, in slow motion and in 3D – then Dredd is for you”