Disney’s The Black Hole signaled the beginning of a change in their film philosophy when it debuted in 1979. Before that, the studio was known for its groundbreaking animated features and truly awful live action disasters like The Apple Dumpling Gang or The Cat From Outer Space. With the success of both Star Wars and Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Disney realized that they had the technical expertise to duplicate the massive grosses of these two films. So they set out to make an intelligent science fiction film that could also appeal to kids.
The resulting film wasn’t the smash hit Disney expected. I can remember a beautiful summer night in ’79 when my family attempted to see the film at a drive-in theater – it would have been wonderful to see this space film under the stars – but the double bill was sold out. The country was still in the throes of Star Wars fever, and almost anything with spaceships and robots – even ones voiced by Roddy McDowell – was must-see entertainment.
The Black Hole has a variety of serious problems that hindered it then and destroy it today. One glaring problem is the airless lack of joy in the film. The characters are written and performed like mindless robots themselves; even the usually hilarious Ernest Borgnine is reduced to spouting proclamations. This creates a dramatic problem, in that the characters are so unpleasant that we cannot root for them, nor can we see why the villain’s mind control over his crew is so bad. It might be better to be a zombie crew member rather than hang out with Dr. Kate McCrae for more than three seconds.
The film also suffers the lingering effects of what we might term “Disney juvenalia.” Although the film is packed with some heady concepts like Bosch-like alternate realities and psychic robots, it also contains old robots that sound like Slim Pickens. It mysteriously features Old West shootouts with robots in which the robots mimic the twirl of their gun, and robots cowering in fear and shaking while suspended in midair. Much of this crap didn’t hold up in 1979, and it doesn’t work now.
However, the film remains in the public consciousness for a few very good reasons. The space scenes and special effects work, for instance, feel huge and remain gorgeous even today. There isn’t a computer anywhere in ILM that can touch the design and execution of the Cygnus model used here. It feels real because it is real, and the Disney model makers outdid themselves in its intricate creation. The space backgrounds and the black hole itself have a painterly feel to them, as if the entire film takes place in the most gorgeously-rendered Hubble nebula photograph ever.
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Even better than that was Disney’s realization of one of science fiction’s best bad guy robots in Maximilian. Angular, silent, blood-red, and staring back with one angry red eye, Maximilian is cinema’s overlooked villain. Much is made of Gort from The Day The Earth Stood Still (the original, of course), but I’d take Maximilian any day of the week. He has vicious twirling knives and Gort doesn’t.
The film also has one of the best and most unappreciated scores ever constructed, mainly because it came from John Barry and not John Williams. Barry used early synths in combination with a swirling string line to mimic the tumbling of matter around a black hole. He coupled this with a triumphant overture that attempts to raise the pulse of the suffocating adventure. The opening title theme, combined with one of the first ever computer-generated film sequences, made these opening credits something special:
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What makes all of this reminiscing possible is the news that Disney’s remake of the film is going forward with Joseph Kosinski, the man behind the Tron sequel, at the helm. In an exclusive interview with MTV, Kosinski says that several crucial elements will remain from the original, most importantly Maximilian:
“What sticks out most is the robot Maximilian. The blades and the vicious killing of Anthony Perkins. That freaked me out and that’s definitely going to be an element that will be preserved. The design of the Cygnus ship is one of the most iconic spaceships ever put to film.”
But Kosinski wants to take the film in a decidedly adult direction:
“From a conceptual point of view, we know so much more about black holes now, the crazy things that go on as you approach them due to the intense gravitational pull and the effects on time and space. All that could provide us with some really cool film if we embrace it in a hard science way.”
Hopefully the film also inject some life into the story, because there are some interesting ideas presented that the original fails to address properly. I wouldn’t mind an updated version of the V.I.N.C.E.N.T. robot with the psychic abilities – there are some cool possibilities there – while getting rid of the Old B.O.B. robot altogether. Here’s a question: do you tackle the philosophical meaning of the original’s finale, or do you create an entirely new ending for the film? I think the original finale left many people scratching their heads, but it left that film with a lingering sense of thoughtfulness missing from films like Battle Beyond The Stars. I’m undecided about this; it should be interesting to see what Kosinski has in mind there.
Overall, though, I trust this guy to handle this remake with respect and renewed vision. His Tron 2.0 has created more buzz for Disney than they’ve had in decades, and looks like an exciting reboot to that film. Hopefully he has the magic to pull it off again with a science fiction film like The Black Hole that could use a little more love.
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21 Comments
I loved the Black Hole as a kid……..I am pumped on this re-imagining.
They just need to keep the ship, the music, and Maximilian close to the originals. VIN.C.E.N.T. can be re-worked and I think the Old Bob idea is ok…but lose the voice. Plus, now they can make those stormtrooper dudes look more menacing.
Plus, I’d love to see a cameo of Schell.
The end MUST BE RE-WORKED.
@ kevin – What would you do with the ending? I mean, they either go through the black hole – to what? – or they don’t.
what an easy question……
maximilian takes control of the ship and steers it out of the black hole. he kills everyone and sends a call to the cyclons. of course, the cyclons are now friends with the borg. in the old sw novels, the clone war fleet was vanquished into unknown territory just sitting there uncommanded. max activates the clones and that group of 4 make a course for earth.
upon hearing of the impending raid, george bush declares war on the threat and bruce willis and affleck gear up with a nuke. putin plans to poison the robots, but someone reminds him that probably won’t work. Ahmadinejad blames Israel for the trouble and says the robots were created by non-believers.
i haven’t written the rest…..but will make it a priority to get that script finished.
@ kevin – Awesome. Makes me glad you work at The English Bar Company instead of Disney!
they could make the end more about a fight to escape the plans of the black hole versus going through it and that crazy led zepplin tribute to smoking pot.
again, 3 things….the ship, the music, and maximilian need to be kept.
#1 – maximilian is like darth vader – it is/was a design that scares the crap out of you.
#2 – same with the music – it’s downright scary!
#3 – the ship is a beauty!!! what a superb design versus the idea of everything always having to be clean-lined and ‘spacey’. obviously, i love old architecture, ie bars, and that ship is like an architectural masterpiece. forget any logics in design (i don’t care).
even the troopers were well designed, just poorly executed in the film….their movement, shooting range, etc. but their design ha held-up well over the past 20 years.
here’s probably my biggest concern. just no more star wars type movies!!! i’m pissed now at lucas for such crap. everyone loved Battlestar and that needs to be the focus in the feel. the cgi needs to be more edgy like sherlock holmes…even avatar wasn’t bad. just no bad acting or star wars cgi. tron is tron – it IS a cgi environment, but i still expect them to 21st century the new movie. i just have a star wars hangover that will be enough for a few decades. i even fear lucas will return with the last three now.
I love The Black Hole more than any sane person should… but am definitely happy to see a remake in the works.
The things that work in this movie well should be expanded upon. The Cygnus design needs to remain faithful… as does that of Maximillian and his sentry robots. I think they should keep the basic look of the zombified crew, but change it to something more horrific for the reveal. (Sorry, but those “medieval” costumes of the crew are a perfect design. Mirrored faces, etc) Perhaps having portions of their bodies actually replaced by robotics and such.
Vincent and Bob can be updated… but should maintain the same aesthetic. Their design is pretty solid as far as repair drones go, and as they say… form follows function. That said, Bob has always seemed rather silly to me. He looks like someone bashed a Vincent model and put a trash can on it’s head… I say they should design Vincent first, then design a rougher version that would have led to his design. (And then inflict the damage one might expect) As is, they pretty much designed an old man robot from the start… which is why Bob just looks out of place.
The payoff of the movie has and always will be a trip through a black hole, so you can’t really change the end plot wise… and since the imagery of not only the “fusion” of Max and Reinheart, but also that of them lording over a hellish landscape stuck with audiences so much it’d be a shame not to work that in somewhere. One has to remember that the main problem in presenting a wholly scientific experience in this journey will be that science always changes with the more we learn. Don’t want to make something that’ll hold up a few years until we find out some new factoid that destroys what we know.
In short, the ending of TBH works because it’s an acid trip. Perceptions and experiences inside that environment are gonna be trippy no matter what.
I just hope that they don’t decide to make the robots CG. It just doesn’t work for the most part. For all Lucas tried to make a frightening robot army, they came off as ridiculous. TBH’s sentry robots work because they’re mute, follow orders to the letter, and actually show real battle damage when shot. Likewise, you buy Vincent and Max as characters because they have a physical presence.
I too am a person who loves The Black Hole more than any sane person should. Just so you understand, my idea of a hot Saturday night is finding a date who will watch this film with me, or a few other sci-fi classics like They Live or Flash Gordon. I have mixed emotions about this film being remade. If it is poorly done, which is my expectation, I will be angrier than any sane person should get after watching a film. What should be done is this: a prequel, the back story, Reinhardt’s refusal to return the Cygnus to earth, the mutiny led by officer Frank McCrae, and the depiction of one of Dr. Reinhardt’s “greatest achievments” the reprogramming of his crew. A prequel would be a much more worthwhile endeavor, and could have unprecedented redemptive value. Hear me out. The Black Hole was meant to compete with the original Star Wars. We know what happened there, but Star Wars’ prequels could have been the biggest dissappointment of a generation. If a prequel of superior quality could be written, produced, directed and performed, The Black Hole could be redeemed and assume its proper stature in Sci-Fi. I have actually been working on such a screen play, but it’s just a hobby.
Peter, ouch……we need to help work on your Saturday nights.
Love the prequel idea, but it still needs to be another movie. The Black Hole does deserve to be made again and done right. I just think there is so much there that can now be fixed and made into a hell of a sci-fi film.
And I do believe the underlying plot could be changed/tweaked. The end of the TBH blew. What made TBH great had nothing to do with the end of the journey…..aka The Acid Trip.
But in today’s type films, I am sure they will have to involve much more action in the remake. But it would be neat if they would leave it open to a more complete story because Peter is right…..Max’s original exodus from life is still a neat mystery.
NOOOOO ! dont get rid of BOB. He was the only character you cared about in the original. He had heart, a good ol boy work ethic. The humans didnt create any emotional attachment. The “blue collar” robot BOB was the one you wanted to see make it.
I agree! I loved BOB. I teared up every time I watched his death. Even Vincent seemed to feel for him, in his own way. He was the only character you cared about in the film.
I also agree with other commentors that Maximillian, the Cignus, Reinhart and the MUSIC made the film so scary. That music haunts my dreams…they should keep the same score if they remake the film.
Now can someone PLEASE explain the ending to me! Did Reinhart and Maximillian really merge? Were they really in hell? Was that Jesus flying by? Where did the survivors end up? I always thought they went back to earth, but that was my 5 year old brain interpreting the ending. Was that supposed to be heaven? Did they die? Is it one of those endings open to interpretation?
As for the ending being reworked – there needs to be more suspense built up towards the end as everything comes apart.
James Cameron did Titanic – lots of people went and saw it. Yet we all knew the ship was going to sink anyways.
This article goes way, way, way too far toward giving the ending of The Black Hole ANY credit. The ending, going to hell through a black hole, is specifically what made the high price of $5 (or maybe it was $7.50 – in 1979 I was 19 and that was a whole lot of money) a total waste of my time and money. I was cheated. I went to see science and and all I got was this? Bletch.
It wasn’t everything else the author mentions in this article that ruined the experience for me, annoying as those things were, but the ending. I even feel cheated by the author’s ambivalence toward the ending in this artcle, incredibly giving only passing consideration to it (Kosinski’s quote). He wasted the chance to lambast Disney for it and warn that they must not go down the road to hell again if they want an audience. That’s what deserves more attention here. There’s no ambivalence about it.
I for one, am stoked to see this film revisited. The ellenshaw artwork and the “aces” camera gave this movie a feel that has never been duplicated. I saw tbh at a drive-in when I was a wee lad and it still envokes the same emotion to this day. I begged my dad to see this movie and it was definately worth it. I love the dark feel to the movie, after all it is the black hole right? Hollywood is re-make crazy right now, so with the story and some cgi coupled with some good acting ….who knows! Bravo
I for one, am stoked to see this film revisited. The ellenshaw artwork and the “aces” camera gave this movie a feel that has never been duplicated. I saw tbh at a drive-in when I was a wee lad and it still envokes the same emotion to this day. I begged my dad to see this film and it was definately worth it! Hollywood is remake crazy right now, so let’s have some fun with it and who knows, maybe with the right cast and some cool cgi we can give the story the look and feel it deserved. Keep John barry’s score though)’
WOW! Obviously an American website!
I can’t believe a remake of this classic has even entered anyone’s mind. As far as I am concerned every criticism of this movie IS the reason this movie was and is so great. I saw this movie on release at the cinema, rented it on video and now own the dvd. The whole point of Slim Pickens’ old bob is that he was made in Texas by the proud Texan community hence the voice, is that so hard to comprehend or accept? The “storm troopers” walk and wild west gun toting was original and a necessary change from the Star wars approach. The bleakness and “dullness” of the characters set the tone of the whole piece. It was a tragic tale that was being told of mass murder, madness and a life or death journey into the unknown. I should have spent more time with this response because I truly think The Black Hole was an American success in every way, a remake will, without doubt, be an appalling typically modern mainstream affair. I believe America dislikes this film because the filmmakers succeeded in making a very dark, bleak, art-house European type film. Look at this movie for what it is, not what you think it should have been. Happy trails. Steve UK.
Hi Stephen Smith
We are in fact a British site, run by British fellas. Ray was our resident American blogger before he departed for pastures new.
For the record, I fully agree with you about the film being successful.
Darn my lack of timing! I was hoping no one would re-discover the potential of a BLACK HOLE reboot till my screenplay was finished. Yes I was working on a reboot script. As someone stated already a bit more focus on the back story of Dr. Reinhardt, XO Frank McCrae and the building of the USS Cygnus would have been in my script. In fact my script is designed as a two-parter. Part one is the back story and part two is the stuff with the crew of the USS Palimino. In a nutshell my BLACK HOLE reboot would be ‘Jonestown-in-space’ rather than ’20,000 Leagues Under The Sea-in-space’. No fluff allowed. Ronald D. Moore’s take on Battlestar Galactica was my model in terms of tone and character development for a BLACK HOLE reboot. Let’s just hope that the established writers and producers paid attention to BSG 2003-2009 as well.
Keep Max, Vincent and Old Bob (*change both robots voices). Update the sentry robots accordingly. As for the humanoid drones, they could likely be left the same. The Cygnus should be the same basic design idea, but again, update it.
The crew should have the same dynamic, but the Booth/Durant characters could be amalgamated.
As for the ending, they should enter the black hole, but leave it at that….if the movie succeeds, then the sequel can follow the further adventures. If the movie is a box office failure, it can be left open ended/unresolved.
Keeping Maximillian, the ship design are good points for this remake. Maximillian Schell like Reinhardt again I don’t think so. Personally I think the cast for this character it must be someone with a kind of creepy appeal, a little odd but darky personality. Schell was very good in that time, but I think Antony Hopkins could be the new Hans Reinhardt.
About the humanoid robots is another point that could be re worked, the lobotomy idea is good but not like laser surgery.
Alex Durant’s death is something that MUST be in the film.
About music could be rearrenged or, if they want new stuff, Inmediate Music could be a great candidate for that task.
I saw the film for the first time when I was a young boy, and I was deeply impressed. Then I didn’t see the film many years. Recently, I bought the DVD, and again the same feelings! Yes, the robot Maximilian, the design of the ship, the music, the humanoid drones, Vincent and Bob, all these things are impressive and should be kept.
Regarding the end, I did not find it bad. Something similar would be alright in a remake, too. Why? Because we still do not know what’s “behind” a black hole, which leaves space for some speculation and even mystic thoughts.
However, in the end I am really afraid that a remake of the “black hole” will become a high-tech, high glossy, slippery-as-an-eel film, and I am afraid the fans of the old film will be disappointed. :-(
The ending was brilliant, and should stay similar for any remake. It was original and quite daring for a childrens’ film. Watching as a kid I remember loving all the dark and light, heaven hell type imagery. Also that it was something a bit different; not the same old, the heroes escaped, and lived happily ever after, and all they went home for some pink lemonade type ending. John Barry’s music got a chance to roll on and extend a bit further. The ending leaves open some interesting geeky questions, did the crew get home? which dimension are they etc?