Ridley Scott’s long anticipated Alien prequel Prometheus recently exploded onto our cinema screens and has already won plaudits for its mind-altering meld of breathtaking visuals, wonderfully rendered alien landscapes and awesomely conceived action sequences, and not least for Michael Fassbender’s eerily spectacular turn as Weyland Industries android David. In other areas, however- such as the depth of its characters and the quality and pacing of its screenplay- Prometheus has polarised the opinions of legions of fans both old and new to the Alien franchise.
For months internet forums have been bursting at the seams with fan-boys analysing every potential connection to Ridley Scott’s seminal mind-trip Alien, trying to get a handle on just how much of a prequel Prometheus actually was and, finally, proposing how exactly the Jon Spaihts/ Damon Lindelof script would join the dots to Alien’s sprawling xenomorph infested universe.
Now, in the aftermath of the Prometheus release and in view of the wide-open ending which practically screams “sequel!”, talk is already turning to the prospective Prometheus follow-up which, as Lindelof recently stated, would show events that would “tangentalise even further away from the original Alien movie…”
Which begs the question- what do we really want from a Prometheus sequel?
1. More of The Engineers
Prometheus opened a window onto the world of our creators, providing us with a thought-provoking glimpse into their role as the Engineers of life in the universe, and offering insights into their biomechanical and often abstract use of technology (let’s try to forget the pied piper of Hamelin moment!). I loved the Engineers, especially how they looked- Alien’s ‘space-jockey’ was brought to life beautifully on the big screen in all its genetically enhanced marble skinned glory- and I really look forward to seeing more of them in the sequel.
Though remnants of their cosmic handiwork abounds in Prometheus- caves, carvings, ships, murals – they appear in person only fleetingly… We see our first Engineer in the opening sequence, which attributes the Däniken-esque origins of mankind on Earth to the sacrifice of one of their number. Then, with the exception of their appearance in several holographic replays hinting at a catastrophe on the moon of LV-223 some 2000 years ago, we are introduced to another- the sole surviving occupant of a cryochamber who is rudely awakened from twenty centuries of stony sleep and asked (we think!) to reveal the secrets of eternal life to Peter Weyland. No subtitles are offered to explain the Engineer’s violent reaction, making it as terrifying as it is baffling.
If the sequel does show the Engineer home-world, and the ‘staggering civilisation’ of the space-jockey that Ridley hinted at in interviews before the release of Prometheus, it will be interesting to understand the general disposition and moral alignment of their species… we should remember that around the time of Alien Scott stated that they were probably a benevolent race. Perhaps the individuals on LV-223 were some kind of breakaway military faction?
And of course the other question on everyone’s mind when it comes to the Engineers: are there any Engineer women?! It’s possible that during the long ages past a calamity befell their species which is why see only male Engineers. Certainly as a race they appear to be undeniably ancient: discounting theories of time travel, eons have passed between the time we see our first Engineer during the Cambrian explosion on Earth, and the time we see our second Engineer on LV-223 millions of years later.
It’s my honest opinion that, depending on how they are rendered in the sequel, the Engineer could become an iconic character in the annals of sci-fi history, and I look forward to finding out more about them!
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Great article. They will need to write in to the sequel how David gets a new body though, right?
‘…twenty centuries of stony sleep’- from The Second Coming of Christ by Yeats- very clever sir!
Thanks Caligula.
Glad you noted the reference- it seemed perfect contextually! And a great poem, of course!
Benji, I really liked your review and thought you hit the nail n the head. Look forward to reading more from you. Good work!
I really agree wanting to see more of the Engineers. Prometheus once again proves that the less you show of something, the more intriguing it becomes. Just like the original Alien, where you hardly saw the creature for most of the film, only in terrifyingly brief sequences. There is just something so mysterious yet awe inspiring about the Engineers, the way they look, their powerful build, etc. I am dying to see more of them in a sequel.
And I agree with more of Shaw and David.
But the fact that the ending of Prometheus hints at these two visiting the Engineer planet is encouraging. Perhaps Ridley Scott was a genius after all, in that Prometheus leaves a lot of questions unanswered, so that creates more of a buzz for the sequel.
Agreed Tommy, the deliberate ambiguity has instigated discussion amongst people , even if they liked or disliked the movie. I had a friend say “god I hated Prometheus, but I can’t stop thinking about it!” So Ridley and were Lindelof were on to something.
Superb article that has got me wanting a sequel greenlit asap.
Love this article! I agree with everything you said, but if I could add a 6th, it would be to see an Alien egg, or a room of them. Something to explain why the engineer from Alien 1 would have those on his ship when there is a more deadly weapon available, the black (x-files) goo. Did the aliens kill all the dead engineers seen in Prometheus? Did the engineers admire them, given the mural of an Alien? Please, Lindelof, Scott, explain that one little thing, even if it takes 20 seconds in the movie. I can then sleep at night again. lol.
Jim- it’s my belief that one Engineer in particular made it away from the madness that engulfed LV-423 2000 years prior to Prometheus. More to follow in my next Prometheus article!
YES I TOTALLY AGREE!
YOU HAVE NAILED IT.
It would have been THAT MUCH BETTER with little changes in that damn script. So many DUMB reactions, thats a faux pas for sci-fi, as the audience looses FAITH in the story when its lazy written.
HOpefully, they READ YOUR POINTS and LEARN.
Thank you…
sorry for big letters… waited SO LONG for this movie and not THAT.
Not totally disappointing – but its such a pitty..
Anyway, enjoyed dave and shaw and i feel like you HAPPY to see them both again…
Thanks Spacy, I can empathise with a lot of your disappointment!
I read several queries, both in the article(s) as well as in the comments about what actually happened to the engineers on LV-233. At the location where they find all the dead engineers piled up, one scientists states that of some the engineers’ chests seem to have burst outward. This is clearly indicating an alien infestation and it seemed they were hurded to a choke point being cornered by Aliens… all very familiar.
Hi Ray, agreed that it’s clear that the LV-423 catastrophe was xenomorph related. It will be very interesting to find out exactly what happened – and why. I have some theories. Perhaps if the Engineers had labelled their containers with the Sumerian equivalent of: “BLACK GOO- DANGER OF DEATH!!!” then none of this would have happened!
Agreed with all 5 points. There’s a rumour going round that a sequel is already in the works or was shot at the same time as Prometheus! I am seriously looking forward to the sequel.
nice article on the sequel! shame we won’t have any more vickers :-(
Nice article on the sequel! shame we won’t have any more vickers :-(
I saw your original ‘Prometheus Unbound’ review at http://wp.me/2tPJ3 and it was great too!
Thanks Pussycat. You never know about Vickers- especially if she is an android! “If you can’t be with the one you love, love the one you’re with…”
I agree with all the points however I would also like to see the questions answers regarding the subtle hints towards the aliens (xenomorphs) existence at that time despite at the end when one is being formed – how the engineers would engineer the species in such a dramatic way I dont know i.e cesarean. Also in the sequel I would like to see it tie up directly to the original film at some point. Don’t get me wrong I’d love to see the engineer’s home planet and their secrets but I’d love to see how the events first seen in Alien came about. Specifically Elizabeth and David revisiting (from at the end they said there are many other planets like this one -LV233 – that have been terraformed – almost like in Aliens from Weyland) LV426 – from Alien 1979 – to finally find out why they were there, S Weaver and co, and how the eggs were there and how the engineers died. In the future i.e after Aliens 1986 you never find out what happens to the Aliens (ignoring AVP/AVP2 – although that is before alien and prometheus – which sort or invalidates the creation of the alien and asks more questions). I believe, personally, Scott’s aim is to create his own trilogy or even quadriology wo knows. Because all alien fans know and believe that Alien 3 and 4 wern’t the same as 1 and 2 i.e Hicks and Newt just dying for no reason. Scott, I think, believes his original has answers and he can create his own series of alien films which answer these and keep the films from having pointless sequels i.e Friday 13th anyone?!
I agree with all the points however I would also like to see the questions answers regarding the subtle hints towards the aliens (xenomorphs) existence at that time despite at the end when one is being formed – how the engineers would engineer the species in such a dramatic way I don’t know i.e. caesarean. Also in the sequel I would like to see it tie up directly to the original film at some point. Don’t get me wrong I’d love to see the engineer’s home planet and their secrets but I’d love to see how the events first seen in Alien came about. Specifically Elizabeth and David revisiting (from at the end they said there are many other planets like this one -LV233 – that have been terraformed – almost like in Aliens from Weyland) LV426 – from Alien 1979 – to finally find out why they were there, S Weaver and co, and how the eggs were there and how the engineers died. In the future i.e. after Aliens 1986 you never find out what happens to the Aliens (ignoring AVP/AVP2 – although that is before alien and Prometheus – which sort or invalidates the creation of the alien and asks more questions). I believe, personally, Scott’s aim is to create his own trilogy or even quadriology who knows. Because all alien fans know and believe that Alien 3 and 4 weren’t the same as 1 and 2 i.e. Hicks and Newt just dying for no reason. Scott, I think, believes his original has answers and he can create his own series of alien films which answer these and keep the films from having pointless sequels i.e. Friday 13th anyone?!
Hi Jack I agree that xenos were already in existence- evidenced in my opinion by i) the murals ii) the derelict (and its cargo) on LV-246. I believe that the answer to how the derelict craft ended up on LV-426 has already been given- although indirectly. More on this in my next Prometheus article!
This is a great article and me and my other Prometheus fan friend cannot now wait for the sequel.
:-)
Too kind!
Great Article- a sequel is pretty much a dead cert, just a matter of time now to find out when and -more importantly- who will be directing. Would Prometheus fans like to see Scott on board for the sequel too? Could it be just as good without him?
I completely agree about having Shaw and David in the sequel- they were of course the strongest performances and the best characters within the film.
What I would like to know about in the sequel is
a) as you mentioned- what happened on the Engineers planet 2000 years ago that stopped them from heading to Earth? But also how did they acquire the black goo/alien DNA in the first place if it is so deadly? Also, it never actually certifies that they were intent on wiping us out (unless i missed something), that is just what Shaw and the others presume. Could they have had other plans for us?
b) Just what or who was Vickers? cos that is left pretty open-ended too. Yes we see her die in Prometheus, but some people (myself included) believe that maybe she too was an android- in which case it is (kinda) possible that we could see her again in a sequel- perhaps there is another model of her or -like David- her brain and character can somehow overcome the physical destruction of her body. Worth thinking about i guess cos I would love to see Theron in a sequel. And the similarity between her and David could not have been coincidental.
c) Finally I think we need to be told more about just what the alien substance is- where it came from, how does it mutate? With Holloway it turns him into an ugly looking S.O.B- Fifield becomes like some super-charged mutant after being exposed to it- and yet Shaw (who obviously had it ‘passed on’ turn her from Holloway) was treated as a host for another species to burst from. She returns to being completely human after the ‘thing’ is removed from her. So why does it behave differently on different people. Is it a gender thing? Does that mean that had it come to Earth the men would all become mutants while the women birth the monsters?
Hi Chelsey, thanks for that, and thanks for commenting. Hopefully we get Ridley back- it looks like he is keen!
Apparently members of the Prometheus team confirmed that Vickers was not an android, but hey you can never take them totally at face value- Ridley and Harrison Ford are still arguing over whether or not Blade Runner’s Deckard is a replicant 30 years on! I have my theories on what the ‘black goo’ is and how it came about (more on that in my next article) and I expect it will be explored in the sequel.
I wanna see the same questions answered myself..the black goo is still a mystery b/c when the Engineer drinks it in the beginning, it creates life..
Hi Jorge- an untold number of eons have passed between seeing the sacrificial Engineer in the opening scene and the Engineer who interacts with the Prometheus crew on LV-423… Do both batches of ‘goo’ have to be the same product?
Benji, I thoroughly enjoyed your article, it was a well written account and well researched. I look forward to reading more of your articles in the future!!
Monotheism didn’t begin with Christianity, it began with Judaism and, to an extent, with Atenism in ancient Egypt more than 2,000 years ago.
Ridley Scott has stated in interviews that rather than destroying Earth because of the rise of Christianity, the Engineers wished to punish humanity for crucifying Jesus, who they had sent as an emissary in order to correct the course of civilization under the Roman empire.
Hello Mr Flowers, thanks for commenting. I was careful to state ‘spread of monotheism’ as oppose to ‘birth of monotheism’. St Paul’s efforts in preaching Christianity beyond the confines of Judaism and amongst the gentiles kick-started Christianity into becoming a global religion.
Regarding the ‘Jesus was a spaceman’ theory it was considered by Ridley and co. but they didn’t go with it in the end. Thank god!
Fine article Benji… gotta agree with the points you make!
Wonder if Cameron will come out with the ‘polar opposite’ blockbuster sequel…hehe
Eloquent article. Lots of info. Thanks.
Can’t they get Peter Jackson in to do the sequel? Lol.
PEACE :-)
@ Matt & @ Meredith:
It looks like Ridley is keen to return to direct the sequel. I’d have loved Peter Jackson- especially after his work producing ‘District 9′!
I also cant believe Ridley and screenwriters ignored the obvious plot holes, the script seemed a bit rushed???
The actual production and the movie are great but the heart of the movie, the story is a bit muddled.
It may be that when they reach the engineers planet that the Aliens are the rulers. Could it be that the earth was seeded with humans that would later be harvested?
@ Mirza,
Totally agreed. Things could have been lots better, and then perhaps if they had got all the basics right then the ambiguity would have been more appreciated.
@ Paul,
Agreed that the xenomporph as portayed in the mural appears to be revered. It could be that this is because it’s the creator of the Engineers- we can’t rule it out. I’m inclined to go down this route though…
http://whatculture.com/film/prometheus-6-answers-to-the-key-questions.php/2
Benji, more and more I see that there are indeed two forms of engineer, the benevolent and warrior caste. I think that it is this warrior caste that want to banish monotheism on earth, like you say. And the benevolent engineers still worship a higher power. Because of the sacrificial nature of the benevolent clan, they seem to have too much of a ritualistic way of terra-forming to lead me to believe that they believe that they alone are responsible for the creation of mankind….long sentence I know. I think they are following orders of some kind of “divine revelation”. I think the xenomorphs were created as an alternative by the warrior caste to destroy what was created. Im thinking angels, fallen angels and demons. The motif fits I think. Even the story of the Nephilim seems to make sense here. The Nephilim were essentially a bastardization of Gods creation, a hybrid of fallen angel and human. This leads me to the idea that the warrior caste “fallen angels” created the Xenomorphs “nephilim”. From human and pro-xeno dna…..Its convoluted I know, but there are still some kinks to my theory which by the way, changes by the second. Your theory is truly the only one I have read thus far that works with all the angles, it truly walks on all fours.
Love your style of writing Benji.
What was promised was never deleaverd , what should of been was a real alien prequel all the hype wait and build up for nothing no xenomorph no show for me at theatres so yes I got my letter from sir ridley in my alien anthology bluray and you letme down with millions of alien fans around the world , as you can understand I dident and wont see this film . :(
You know, more and more I can see a Christian influence in this movie. Perhaps, the Jockeys are what we call angels and the biomechanoid version found in lv223 the fallen angels…2000 years ago, Jesus dies on the Cross, saving Humanity….which is played out in lv223, by a Benevolent being. Also, I love the comment Naomi makes..” who created them?” Perhaps David was destroyed because we have become too much like them, creating life. The warrior caste is zealous for our worship…now too we have become a species in there mind too close to be “worthy of worship” Ultimately I think these elements will be explored in the next installment. How about the Xenomorphs…The Warriors attempt to create something that ultimately becomes a gruesome evil force. What they created to worship them, ultimately turns on and destroys them. Do all jockeys in this time period look like the warriors found in lv223, or do remnants still look like the originals, purely biological. IDK, good stuff if you ask me. Ultimately I think the end product will explore this motif and also answer the question…who created the jockeys??
@ Jason,
Glad you Enjoyed this and think it walks on all fours!
Thanks for the detailed comments. A lot of what you ask/ state is covered by my WhatCulture articles on myth and answers that came after this sequel article so I won’t repeat it here in the comments but if you have not checked them out please do so.
I think it’s certainly a possibility that there are variant Engineer factions. And it will definitely be interesting if the sequel explores the question of who created them.
Some very interesting comments on this site. A lot of food for thought!
In a sequel, I’d like to see a bit more of how the Enginners are connected to the Xenos, i.e. more details on how these Engineers created the Xenos, or how they discovered them, used them…
In Giger art piece Hieroglyphics for the first Alien movie (SEE LINK – just click or copy/paste in browser the following http://www.museumsyndicate.com/item.php?item=20287 ), we can see the Xeno life cycle, with the Engineers actually present. Egg, facehugger, host (which seems to be an Engineer), and chestburster are all present. What’s interesting and peculiar is the Xeno-and-slightly-human figure at the top of the image. Its body and limbs surround the protrait, and it or she is laying the egg in question. Could this be the first type of Xeno Queen? It would be interesting if they explored this in future films.
Also, I have some books at home which mention that the Enginners created the Xenos and their Queen as weapons of destruction and creation. But the Xenos here are described as first generation, with characteristics of Human, Xeno and Engineer species (a mixture of organic, humanoid and biomechanical). The books refer to Giger’s art piece Li II (HERE’S THE LINK – just click or copy/paste: http://www.artbrokerage.com/artist/H-R-Giger/L-I–II-43246 ) as a possible representation of the very first Xeno Queen, with characteristics of all species (which are in fact one species). It’s beautiful, yet eerie!
Lastly, I would love to see the Xeno and/or Engineer Homeworld in a sequel. Hopefully it will have the look of the Engineers’ ships and technology and the kind of biomechanical feel of the Xenos, a bit like some of Giger’s artwork of Alien Landscapes. Here is one of many (just click or copy/paste the link): http://www.newarteditions.com/hr-giger-print-biomechanioden-kunstverein-biel/
Cheers!
Thanks for the links JC. I also really hope they involve Giger more in the sequel!
Agreed with all!
Why are they doing this to the alien franchise there stupid i wanna know how the ship got ta lv 429 not lv 224 and how the queen formed the alien did not look like the queen at all witch is stupid THE WRIGHTERS BEST DO IT WRITE CAUSE I AM DISAPPOINTED and mad
@ Caligula
“They will need to write in to the sequel how David gets a new body though, right?”
Shaw took David’s body along when they left at the end of the film. One assumes he can talk her through fixing it.