We’re nearly there now but we can’t help feeling like a child ten days before Christmas day. That’s right Christopher Nolan’s final chapter of his epic Batman is just a week and change away and we’re positively Bat brained with anticipation.
We’ve got so much good to say about the series so far but that doesn’t mean we haven’t observed our share of inconsistencies, of unanswered questions that have been bugging us, some from the very beginning which have remained a mystery even since The Dark Knight was released.
With The Dark Knight rises so close to its premier we realise that with it comes the end to all of our queries. We may not get all the answers that we wanted but on the 20th of July we’ll have had all of the answers we’re gonna get.
So get ready for the list that WhatCulture readers deserve, not the one it needs as we consider the burning questions we’re hoping Nolan answers this month.
1. Who Were the Six People that Batman was Accused of Killing?
We know that at the end of The Dark Knight, Batman took the blame for ol’ Two Face’s little killing spree and will stand guilty in the eyes of a Gotham City citizenship this summer.
A warrant was issued by the Gotham City Police Dept. for the arrest of the vigilante known as the Batman. A copy of this warrant was posted to TheDarkKnightRises.com and you can clearly glean that Bats is accused of killing six people in total; two of which are GCPD officers and one of which is Harvey Dent.
For a vigilante that doesn’t kill that’s a fairly hefty body count of supposedly upstanding individuals. But who are the other three? Are we talking no name Gotham citizens or Dent’s own henchmen? Is the answer actually in The Dark Knight and we just weren’t paying attention? Or are more mysteries to be told in The Dark Knight Rises?
Hopefully time will tell.
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Ok. This site has officialy reached mens health levels of pointless cinema articless pulled out your ass. If directors made movies according to your suggestions we would be flooded with a stream of phantom menace. Explain everything? Explain midichlorians!
Whilst I agree with you that a lot of these questions will be hanging on the tips of the audiences’ mind throughout, I don’t necessarily think they MUST be answered.
There’ll be no mention of The Joker, I’m positive on that. Maybe if Heath Ledger hadn’t died, there’d be a way to reference him, but I think Nolan has said time and time again that there will be no mention of him.
I just wanna comment on the 6 that Batman was accused of killing.
They were Wuertz (cop#1), Maroni, Maroni’s driver, Maroni’s other thug who is very briefly seen getting into the car, and the police officer (cop#2) the Joker killed in Dent’s hospital room. Nobody knew the joker was there so they assumed Harvey did it. And from there the blame fell onto Batman since he took all the murders for his on.
And of course the 6th murder is Harvey Dent himself.
There is no mystery. The Dark Knight simply wasn’t very clear about all the people that were killed.
Victor Zsasz did not kill Joe Chill, a woman working for Carmine Falcone killed him.
i don’t mind the article but i agree, there are a lot of pointless articles on this site lately.
how many times are you going to do 5 reasons this or 10 reasons that?
Sorry you find them pointless Steve but we will be continuing to deliver them for as long as they continue to be the most read and commented articles.
A lot of the comments are quite negative though. I understand the onus you feel to deliver articles with ‘Dark Knight’ in the title, and I expect they are some of the most popular. I also don’t blame you for being in the position you’re in at all, but as someone who loves film – and I truly believe that you adore it, Matt – the site does seem to be putting out a lot of articles that miss the point. A bit like this one. Nolan’s Batman just isn’t a ‘mystery’ franchise. It doesn’t deliver questions, it delivers answers. A lot of the criticism here is a bit harsh, yes, because this is the internet and anonymity enables people to be abruptly assertive. But the actual argument people are making is sound. You might win back some respect from long-standing fans of the site by taking a more proactive stance towards the content you put out. rather than just churning out more or what’s popular. OWF was a tremendous site for that very reason, and I’m absolutely certain that WC! can be as well. You’ve got (mostly) good writers, but their output often doesn’t match their ability.
Thanks Roland, appreciate the comments. We can definitely do better and criticism doesn’t go on deaf ears, especially from readers who have been with us a long while.
Matt so finally admit that when you switched OWF to WC you turned it into a tabloid that goes after any story as long as it sells? Thats low as you used to have a good movie site. I understand you have to make money but why loose your integrity in the process?
No not at all. We changed to What Culture because we felt the word “film” in our URL was restrictive in what we could write about. One of my best contributors and a good personal friend of mine begged me for years to expand to include a gaming section and when we were finally brave enough to do it, I think that’s been a huge success. After just one year of covering gaming I’m very proud of how that section has shaped up and our relationship with developers and studios is encouraging for the future. I’m really excited about that section right now. We actually almost have as much extensive gaming coverage going up every day now as we do film.
Then we added a sports section. The main editors of the site are all huge football fans and have been itching to talk about the sport for years but we felt we couldn’t do it as OWF. We’ve broken several news stories this year through that section and again, have big plans for where that section could go. Of course we are learning all the time and sometimes we may miss the mark but we are starting to find our voice over there. Our Euro 2012 coverage far exceeded my expectations.
Then there’s WWE section which is getting more and more popular every week and we’re thinking of ideas to expand the Tech section. Personally I think the site is really becoming a great hub for entertainment and interesting content and our returning visitors have never been higher. At least 20% better returning rates than under OWF… so we are keeping more of an audience than ever before. That tells me people are finding us, are interested in our coverage and are wanting to stick around.
I still try and make film the main focus of the site because I know there is a big group who remember the old days. Our coverage of Prometheus I believe was the best on the internet. Read Marcus’ or Benji’s extensive articles on the theories and mysteries of the film. They are stunning, simply stunning. I believe we have filed over 40,000 words on Prometheus, most of which is better than any other site on the internet. More than enough to publish a book and who knows, we might go down that avenue with it.
We even have more Prometheus articles to come as we still feel there are things we didn’t cover. Check those out. I still think our integrity is in great feature content…
http://whatculture.com/topic/prometheus
Who hires these writers?
Me
My post got lost because of pc failure so I will keep it short.
I dont care about other topics so I dont comment on the fact you went for games and other stuff. I speak about movies only
The amount of articles on one topic is irrelevant. Again quality over quantity. Also you used to have interesting fresh articles about unknown movies. Now you beat even more topics than Nolan to death and even though it is interesting what matters is the movie so giving me a ton of info about one, especially speculative is more fan fiction( like this art.) than serious jurnalism.
To me a quality site about movies is for example FSR. They may not be UK based and I wanted one UK site to read but Im slowly switching from WC to it because it doesnt take that much enegery and time to find something good and usefull. Im not 18 anymore and I have no time for pointless speculation.
One solution would be to bookmark our film page…
http://whatculture.com/film
All our film articles go in there and that’s all you will be presented with. I don’t think the articles are too different to what we used to write about? It’s almost the same as what OWF used to be.
You’ve got Shaun’s excellent reviews and the thoughts of our other writers. Regular features and news, etc.
But if we are losing you to FSR, then not much I can do at this point. I like FSR… Our gaming editor Simon writes for them from time to time. Definitely a site worth visiting regularly.
i don’t get this matt.
you rarely comment except for recently when you come out to defend these articles. i saw you get a barrage of hate for your “Dalglish Sacked” article (in which i defended you) and you hardly said a word back. but in these instances your more than ready to stick up for these articles.
if i didn’t know better you know they suck a bit and you know this site is going of course a little. You can probably feel that but are forced to include them due to some kind of views count, but deep down you know that its all getting very cheap.
50 hottest girls you’ve never heard of?
Amazing…
Often my lack of comments is just over time. Some days I don’t get chance to read the comments, which is something I’m trying to get better at. The Dalglish story was crazy and we were getting comments every few minutes and it was too much for me to manage. And to be honest I was just commenting the same thing and people didn’t seem to listen to what I was saying so I saw no point repeating myself.
I wouldn’t publish an article on What Culture that I thought sucked. Absolutely not. I reject dozens of articles a day and dozens of contributor applications go straight in the trash. However I will allow articles to be published that don’t carry the same opinion as me if I find them entertaining, well written or they put forth an argument well.
Hey, I enjoyed the 50 Hottest Girls You’ve Never Heard Of. Sometimes a bit of light-hearted is ok.
p.s they are the most read articles because they annoy people.
Why would people stick around and continue to read them if they were annoyed by them?
well i imagine this article has received a fair amount of views and attention, but several readers have found massive flaws in the piece.
meaning that the views and comments in this instance isn’t down to a great article, its down to people voicing there disappointment and then coming back to view future posts and replies.
i sometime see one of the lesser top 10′s and still click through more due to a morbid curiosity than genuine interest. i guess i would be counted as a “view” but i don’t think that could contribute it to being a great article.
i see this as an intellectual site. i like the reviews being a little deeper and more objective than others, it feels like these articles are written by “proper” film buffs. which is obviously cool, but that image doesn’t go well with other lesser topics.
anyway I’m sure they are fun in certain lights, its just myself and apparently a few other people that aren’t big fans. doesn’t make them crap i guess, just more of an observation. I’m sure in the long run your sure to get more exposure and more readers, which is an admirable goal to achieve. (you’ll never catch me use the term selling out).
i just hope whatculture doesn’t loose its identity because thats what truly makes it stand out from the crowd.
Wow, what an awful article.
3, 8, and 10 will be answered, since they’re what the film is about!
1, 2, 5, and 6 have already been answered
7 and 9 are inane/completely irrelevant to the story.
I, for one, love the articles. I can understand where people might find them over done, but it’s a simple matter of not clicking on the article if you don’t care for it. Why read it, then proceed to comment on it claiming they are annoying and unecessary? You don’t have to read these articles, it’s your choice. Obviously you keep reading them.
Going on to someone’s site and telling them what they should or shouldn’t write, as often or infrequent as you wish, seems a little off…don’t you think? It’s the same mentality of people who go on twitter or facebook, and tell others they post too many messages etc. If you don’t like it, do something about it yourself, don’t just expect them to revolve around your desires.
I enjoy these kind of articles because I am super excited for TDKR, and thus I love reading and discussing about it. It’s just simple entertainment. If he says they bring in page views, then there’s no reason to stop writing them. If you genuinely aren’t interested, then don’t click on the article. Is it that hard to ignore it, and scroll past?
Sheesh…with all of the legit problems in the world, poverty, hunger, genocide, terrorism, discrimination…it’s funny people feel compelled enough to actually complain about “too many top 10 lists on this website”. Lol Seriously, just think about it for a moment, and how ridiculous that sounds. Haha
1) The six people Batman has been accused of killing are Harvey Dent, that police officer in the bar, the bartender, Sal Falcone, his driver and most likely that police officer who ran up to Harvey’s hospital room and killed by the Joker (they don’t know the Joker visited him before he blew up the hospital so they could have assumed Harvey killed him.)
2) And to answer the Joker thing; he robber a bank, killed many citizens of Gotham, threatened to kill more, escaped from the police station and blew up a hospital. If that doesn’t get him the death penalty I don’t know what will…The Joker will not be featured or referenced to at all in TDKR though.
3) Batman has been in retirement for eight years. Already confirmed.
5) It has been confirmed many a time that Dent is dead…
Hasn’t the John Blake character already been verified as Azrael from the graphics on the toy packaging? I thought I read an article on this site about that a few weeks ago.
Anyway, I personally like these ‘list’ articles on WC. Just because they don’t always have a great deal of substance or could be considered shameless comment bait, doesn’t mean they aren’t a fun and relaxing way to pass time… kind of like a Michael Bay movie.
I think it was Nolans original intention to have Joker in the third movie. I reckon when Bane reeks havoc on Gotham in TDKR, he was originally meant to bust open the inmates of Gotham Asylum as well and release the likes of Joker and Scarecrow. Only my theory tho
I lost it at “Dent’s own henchmen.” Oy vey… Did you watch the movie??
Half of these questions have already been answered. You’re really desperate for views, aren’t you?
Sorry, but I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt after reading some of the comments. However, this article is rather pointless. Pretty sure we will find out who JGL is actually playing. The new batcave has been shown in plenty of features of late. Thought it was made pretty clear that Bruce has been a recluse and Batman has all but disappeared. This article may have been cooler had it been written 6 months ago