Playing FIFA 12 online can bring the best and the worst out of anybody. One moment you can be in utter jubilation about an incredible piece of football you have just managed to orchestrate and the next you can be getting ready to throw your FIFA disc out of the window! We all love the game but we also hate it when it is not in our favour.
If you haven’t played Pro Clubs before, it only takes a couple of games to realise that if you haven’t put the effort in to improve your pro to nearly 100% or just glitched him, then you aren’t going to do very well at all.
It has got to that time of the year where everybody starts looking forward to the next edition of FIFA and the release is not far away. One of the main reasons some people buy the game is because of the Online Pro Clubs feature and I am one of them. As a consistent player of Pro Clubs for a number of years now, I have a pretty good idea of what needs to change.
1) Firstly, and I know some people may disagree with this but….
Every team must have to play with an Any! This concept may not seem like a good idea to some but people play online to play against other people and not against the computer. Using the computer to defend for you is basically saying that you are incapable of doing it yourself. It is unfair on all of the actual gamers who want to play the game themselves.
If making every team play with an Any is too much of a change then at least include a search option to search for teams with or without an Any.
2. Make all of the non Virtual Pro’s the exact same rating.
This gives everybody an equal chance and makes it more of a fair game. How many times have you seen the outpacing of your Virtual Pro by some random 64 rated computer generated defender?… Too many is the answer!
Click “next” below for part 2…
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30 Comments
The midget players are annoying with their speed. I think it would be a good idea if your clubs anys improved as the clubs level went up as well. Also the anys passing needs fixing as well, whenever you ask for it close they always chip it to you. I disagree with what you said about every club should have an any, it’s not called “any clubs” now is it?
I did mention the fact that u could search to play agaisnt teams with an any or teams without to accomodate everybody
It was a good article until you mentioned everyone must play with ANY. Immediately through away all credibility you had out the window. It’s PRO clubs not ANY clubs. If you so wish to control an entire team, there are modes that cater to that such as Kick off, career mode, head to head seasons and others.
Yeah its called Pro Clubs, not “let me play against the pc and let them defend for the opposing team” if i wanted that then i would play career. Pro clubs is to play against other HUMAN players. CP defending is cheap but if if you rely on that.. each to their own
I couldn’t agree more regarding the “ANY” rule. My club tend to give possession straight to the opposition from kick off to see if they have CPU-controlled players. If they do, we quit out before 5 minutes.
It’s simply not enjoyable playing against the computer, often 5 at the back, sitting incredibly deep and playing inch-perfect passes to the controlled virtual pros hanging on the half-way line mashing the pass button.
For me, FIFA 09 had the best clubs mode. You selected a team, all the real players were there, but every rating was the same (85 if I remember correctly). Each position had stats tailored to their roles, wingers were quick with good crossing, defenders strong and tall. It was fair for everyone. And it didn’t have the ridiculous random-generated players we have to deal with now.
See what you think about these suggestions similar to yours but about all aspects of the game.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/55362918/FIFA%2013%20Suggestions.docx
Give it a shot.
Sorry mate, but the rule about everyone playing with ANY, sucks… It’s PRO CLUBS, and I WANT TO PLAY WITH MY PRO and ONLY WITH IT…
So in my opinion, it should be forbidden to play ANY, cause ANY loses all the meaning to that mode in the game.
All in all, your article is crap.
You can tell automatically how ridiculous having a computer any is just from the comments. The people vouching for it jumped on it straight away without any concern for anything else that was written, whereas most of the other comments actually had some measure about them.
Their tunnel vision for the defence of their “ace up the sleeve” feature blinds them so much that they can’t even bear to read anything else.
I have an idea for a feature to be taken out. The ability to ask for the ball. That way, it might deter these 5 at the back, ultra defensive, 2 midgets up front clubs. If they can’t ask for the ball then they cannot cream off the computer doing all the graft for them before making an impossible punt up the pitch for one of these morons to be through on goal from.
Pretty much agree with every single fault you listed up there that ruins Pro Clubs on Fifa 12. ESPECIALLY the one about forcing a pro club to have an Any, or you don’t play at all.
Numberous times have me and my club come up against a team who have five at the back, four up front and a computer controlled Any and you might as well be a spectator in the match, watching the A.I pass beautifully weighted balls to the human controlled players every single damn time, and to make it worse trying to break down a five to eight man computer controlled defense is like watching Barcelona against Chelsea… boring and incredibly frustrating.
EA needs to bring back the “No Any, No Play” feature otherwise those who play Fifa for Pro Clubs will start to abandon ship to that other footie game…. what was it called again? I can’t remember.
To anyone going against no any Clearly you play 2v2′s and have no skill at this game. Playing with the computer 5 back and calling for the ball requires no skill. Obvioulsy players like all of you who suck need the computers so I think they should have a match any and match gk search option. ANY’s are what make the game fun. Being able to dribble around a human controlled player instead of making cut in runs behind the computers and hitting the through ball button makes the game way more intresting. Its so boring not being able to attempt skill moves or certain passes because the computer play defence almost perfectly. Thankfully ea did dull the computers down. If they had about 80 speed and acceleration you would never get a breakaway
Also having the ability to match GK’s would be enjoyable, being able to match up against a goalie every game and dribble them to make them look foolish would be a dream. Its so boring playing against a computer and using the finisse shot. Whenever my club match up against a CPU Keeper we never finisse unless were down 1 late in the game. Its more fun to play good football and pass it into the net.
Using the “any” mode would be great if the passing was a whole lot better. I think people would use the “any” mode if it was a smoother game play. I for one cannot stand using half dead defenders trying to catch the vps and I think that’s why people let the computer take over the defending cause they seem a lot faster don’t they lol crazy!! I used play as an “any” FIFA 10, FIFA 11 it was far more enjoyable.
Clubs is the game mode i enjoy the most. It was destroyed by players basically being lazy. using a CPU ANY is cheating and basically admitting you’re incapable of defending for yourself. I say bring in a filter for players to choose if they want to play against other ANY controlled teams. This way the lazy/incapable players can be bored to death watching the CPU play against each other.
Completely agree with all of your points, I play Pro Clubs 4-5 times a week for a few hours each night, we dont have a full team (6 max) but will play against any team. Pro Clubs was ruined by the World Class CPU skill in FIFA 11 and FIFA 12. The CPU players simply do not make mistakes and defend to perfection. To me, this takes a lot of fun out of the mode, which in my opinion is the best mode FIFA has.
For my team, Pro Clubs represents the most interesting but undervalued (by EA) part of the game. This is the last chance I am giving EA.
Those complaining people who do not have a capable ANY player in their team, you should be playing offline pro matches or online practice matches. Dont annoy the people who want to play against other people.
n.b. We used to play FIFA 10 with 2 ANYs, now, we take turns.
Pro Clubs = Pro Clubs!!! and not “Any Clubs”
If you are not capable of dribbling past a CPU controlled ‘Any’ then obviously you cant play the game. In regards to letting the CPU do the work and just having to call for the ball….. not every call for the ball guarantees the receiving of the ball…. there still is some skill involved in picking the right time to call 4 it. In regards to 5 deep sitting defenders….come on seriously you dont know how to brake them down :-)
Pro Clubs is for Pros and not 4 anys. I want to control my Pro and my Pro only and if I cant get a team with 11 Pros then I have to rely on a CPU controlled ‘Any’ and that should be the same for every Pro Club Team……therefore: NO TO ANYS IN PRO CLUBS!!!! End of story :-)
I agree with all your ideas sir and for all those who disagree you statments are invalid, there is other games types for those of you who dont have the skill level to control the generic players. People who play with no any 5 at the back ultra defensive 4 people 1 being a gk is a joke
I’m sorry but clearly you’ve only been playing Fifa either since 12 or 11, and are probably under the age of 16 if you think Pro Clubs shouldn’t have a manually controlled Any. Fifa 09 and 10 showed that everyone could play with an Any and could play an enjoyable and balanced game, and punished those who tried to use the CPU for Any as a cheap way of playing the game. Once they made the CPU skill level at World Class, the enjoyment of Clubs vanished and was quickly replaced with stupid frustration.
And it’s not just five at the back, many times it’s between 6-8 if it’s only two strikers up front and set to ultra-defensive, and it’ll be like playing against Chelsea all over again. And that’s without the opposition having a GK as well. It’s an ugly way of playing the beautiful game and even worse when it’s virtual.
If you really do believe that Pro Clubs is just for Pro’s and there is no room for real proper Any’s, then I’m sorry but you are a fool and can not play Fifa properly.
Clubs does need some looking at by ea,options to search for an ANY and a GK would be great.plus improvements to the random players.And most of all the cheat players and glitching needs major looking into.pro clubs does not mean to only play with your pros,i think most people like to play any with friends creating moves and goals. teams with no anys call for balls and dont creating or pick passes themselfs. so if the option is there to search for an any we would not play a team without an any, and no anys can play no anys,and good luck to that bore fest.
Get rid of the super fast, ridiculously powerful midgets with perfectly weighted touch and people will stop playing 8 at the back. Its frustrating to play against, any or no any. I play in defense 100% of the time and have to deal with trash players on a regular basis. The midgets are what kills clubs every single year – if you disagree, then I’m pretty sure that your VP is shorter than 5’4″ with a cannon for a foot.
Seriously, every time its – midget with gets ball, sprints to the wing, turns around and sprints back towards the top of the box, finesse curler, goal… losers. Any or no any, this exploit needs to go. Id rather go back to clubs in ’09 where it was real teams. At least I knew to back out on all the Barca and Real Madrid cheesers.
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I agree! the fifa 09 was great, the homegrown in fifa10/11/12 are very bad just ask k get in the way real players club pro, as in FIFA 09 ….
Change 1: Midgets have to go – Countless matches I have quit before the game has even started because our team is facing 2 forwards and 1 CAM under 5ft 4in. Completely unrealistic. If they want to be quick and small then let them, but amend this problem by weakening other attributes like strength/shot power.
Change 2: Finesse has been ruined – The skeptical of seeing a perfectly curled shot has been destroyed in this game. Countless times the opponent gets a throw in, receives the ball, turns and runs alongside the edge of the area and BAM, it’s in. I’m not recommending to take the shot out of the game, because it’s a great attribute to have and see. But if this is the case, goalkeepers need to be severely improved – which brings me onto my next point
Change 3 – Pro Clubs AI trains with girl scouts – How come the AI on my team have no idea what is going on? Poor passing, horrible ball dribbling and horrendous shots. The AI should improve as and when your team does. However, I feel with the introduction of the new attacking AI might somewhat resolve this issue.
Change 4 – Matchmaking – This is a must. I should be able to chose if I want to play with an idiot using Any in a PRO clubs game or not. EA won’t rule out the ANY option, which is annoying as I don’t see how this should be incorporated into a VP game; nor do I understand the morons writing in this thread of how it is more difficult and ‘skillfull’ to have someone on your team using the Any option. I won’t waste my breath explaining why. Just give us the option to matchmake.
Change 5 – Editable clubs – The clubs need to be further explored and changeable. Let us make our own kits, number our players, and re name our poorly playing AI players.
The thing is, so many people are complaining about improvements that need to be made, but there is SUCH a huge percentage of people out there ruining it for everyone else. It got to the point that me and my friends label these opponents as ‘Generic’. I would say our club faces 7/10 online games that feature glitched players and midgets, and it is those who ruin it for us. And for what? So their team can climb the imaginary EA table to become ‘king of the…social lifeless?’. I thoroughly enjoy this game mode, it’s fun, addictive and since i moved half way across the world, a great way for me to keep close with my friends back home and the only game mode i really enjoy. But this will be the last FIFA game I will buy if these issues aren’t at least looked at.
No hate,
Dylan
Pro clubs in 12 freezes to much needs to be fixed! Also it should
Be to where you can have actual subs on your team
I think the keepers should not be harder computer wise but you have to do and consider more things I’m a goalkeepee by the way so it isn’t strikers against keepers
you must play as an any…are you kidding me? when you play, sorry IF you play, in real life do you control everyone on your team? no you do not. The point of playing pro clubs is to make your guy improve him as games pass and make your team better in the process. The concept of an ‘any’ takes the realism out of the game mode. ‘Anys’ ruin the game by constantly charging straight at you. thats not pressure btw, thats called playing like a typical freaking 10 yr old. Just sickens me that ANYONE thinks playing as an ‘any’ is a good concept.
Why shud everyone need to play as any, we create a vp so that we can use him also if you play an any you get a terrible match rating, if you wanna control more than one player then don’t bother wit be a pro!
im sorry but for all the people claiming cpu defending is too good. are u serious? cpu defending is like the worst defence ive ever seen , a simple fake shot and their gone. and the gk passing it to the other team? i liked the article but the any rule i didnt agree with, any teams are much much more better then the cpu due to the cpu´s terrible defence and passing ability
That’s ridiculous saying everyone should have to play as ‘ANY’, it ruins the game having it as an option if anything. And I wouldn’t want to sit there basically watching my friend play FIFA!
I think that players who choose to play as any are greedy, as when they do play as any, they just try and play it to their vp and then just run with him without passing. It defeats the whole object of the game which is to play as a team…
What a bunch of moronic rubbish! As quite correctly argued above a) it’s actually harder to play against an ANY defence – so if you quit out because of that then maybe you’re not good enough to play this mode; b) It’s Pro mode, not Ultimate Team or Seasons (plus a few midget mates) – people deserve a choice between either and you should really only be playing with your own player; and c) Get rid of that 5 minute rule and give teams that quit -3 points.
The any thing is dumb don’t care much for the other stuff. If I wanted to play any would go do regular matches. Being made to play any would defeat the purpose of the pro club game mode. The bots should all just be legendary or world class professional something higher to the average FIFA player
I think the most important improvement (also to2013) would be to change the way a team is put together in Drop-in. Instead make it so that managers can hire available positions. Have players enlist as a position. This would fill up the teams with players and it would remove the randomness. 99% of players wants to play attack and that is bad, especially when it is a matter of connection speed, if you can get that position or not. Supply and demand, its not rocketscience!