1. To All Good Things And End Must Come
By keeping good on his stated intention of ending his Batman story with The Dark Knight Rises then letting WB relaunch the series with another new continuity, Chris Nolan might end up starting a trend in super hero movies far more vital than the “Gritty and Realistic” vibe that everyone else in the game has been trying to copy. Nolan might show Hollywood that a multi-movie series with a planned and definitive end can be a hugely successful endeavor.
For an example of why this would be a really good thing, just look back on the previous Batman movies. When judged on their own merits, Joel Schumacher’s two flicks aren’t nearly as bad as their reputation might lead one to believe. It’s fairly obvious that Schumacher was attempting to pay homage to the quirky camp style of the Adam West/Burt Ward show of the 1960′s. With that in mind, it’s not hard to declare Joel victorious in what he was aiming for. The problem is that this kitchy throw back was an addition to a series that had already started off as a backlash against the goofiness of the West/Ward version of the characters. Tim Burton’s Batman and Batman Returns had established a darker and edgier style that felt more at home with the grimmer and more negative world view of the late 80′s and early nineties. The approaches taken by Burton and Schumacher are both valid ways to portray Batman, but they don’t really mix well together. This is plain to see when you watch either of the latter two after seeing either of the former.
If Burton had been able to do a third Bat movie ending his series and Schumacher’s first Bat movie had been a reboot, each set would have been better for. Burton could have had his dark revenge tale with Billy D Williams as Harvey Dent turned Two-Face and Schumacher could have cast a different actor to play a different version of the Joker, or Catwoman. Whichever actors filled in those roles would almost certainly have been closer in performances to Caesar Romero and Julie Newmar than to Jack Nicholson and Michelle Pfiefer, but that would have been okay it would have fit in much better with the Jim Carrey’s and Arnold Schwarzenegger’s of the later movies.
If Nolan really does close the book on his set of Bat flicks, it could inspire other studios to consider doing the same with their own franchises. I think most of us can agree that Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man series would have been better served if he’d been able to do a 4th movie redeeming the mistakes of Spidey 3. What would make things even better than that, would have been a movie that wrapped up the story for the Tobey Macguire version of the character and paved the way for a proper reboot, as opposed to The Amazing Spider-Man which is a rather clearly rewritten version of what was supposed to be Spider-Man 4. The biggest and saddest loss here is that after two movies of giving us brilliant character actor Dylan Baker as Curt Connors and setting him up to become The Lizard, fans now have to suffer through this “Rhys Ifans” guy coming in out of nowhere with his goofy name and ugly pug throwing everything off kilter. If Sony looks to the success of The Dark Knight Rises and decide to someday do a proper send off for the Andrew Garfield version of Spidey before their inevitable 2nd reboot of the franchise when those actors get too old for the roles, then it will be a better world for all of us.
A really attractive aspect of this being a trend is imagining how this could affect non super hero franchises. How great would it be if Daniel Craigs final movie as James Bond went out with a bang that was planned to be epicly conclusive because everyone on board knew it was the last Craig movie before eventually finding another actor to be James Bond?
Speaking of finding other actors…
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19 Comments
The “reboot” should have Batman wake up in Arkham and we’re introduced to all the villains at once as he tries to escape. Setting up the new actor as Batman and the ‘rebooted’ Gotham baddies. A first movie that isn’t the typical first movie that’s getting all kinds of boring in the world of superhero movies.
Marcus, this is why idiots like you aren’t allowed to write screenplays for any studios.
Sounds like it would work to me, Marcus. Very similar to what DC did with ‘The New 52′ Batman.
Tom C. Dude, calm down and switch to decaff.
By the way, Marcus great idea I love it.
Y the hell would batman end up in arkham
bane is not a mexican.
if ppl would just look up bane’s history and see that he is also HALF British and half from somewhere in the caribbean (mom’s side) then everyone would know Tom Hardy was a good call
Ray Stevens was a much better Punisher than Thomas Jane who got stuck in a much worse movie….
Yeah, they definitely mean Ray Stevenson. Ray Stevens is a country comedian from a long ass time ago. Get it together people.
Whoops. I’ll make sure to double check imdb for spelling next time. Thanks for catching that.
As a massive fan of the Nolanised versions of Batman, I have to say that it would be extremely unlikely for another reboot of the Caped Crusaders adventures in the near future. Christopher Nolan has completely reshaped not only Batman films but superhero films. The gritty, dark and realistic version of Batman has truly set DC apart from it’s comic book rivals. And this is not even taking into consideration who will play the next Batman, and maybe even more questionably the next Joker. Obviously there will be more Batman films beyond the Dark Knight Rises but they will probab;ly not occur any time soon.
Do your research. Another reboot is planned, because Warner Bros. will lose the rights to the movie franchise soon. Also, you seem to lack faith in future franchises. There will be other Nolan-like franchises.
@Tom : Warner Bros own DC moron…
Regardless of whether it would be a bold move or not, if Nolan kills off Bruce Wayne/Batman Americans should then insist that Quentin Tarantino make a James Bond film, authorized or not, and blow up 007.
Agreed. Burton is a director in his prime. Also, he’s a huge fan of the James Bond novels. Who better to adapt the novels to the big screen?
Maybe it’s time for Warner Brothers to develope a Batman Beyond movie we don’t need to see a new movie with Bruce Wayne, it’s time to show what Gotham City would look like in the future with new characters/Villains the story should take place 40 years after The Dark Knight Rises, meaning Bruce Wayne is old and retired and Terry McGinnis himself is following in his footsteps.
Personally I’d prefer a Batman Beyond movie to be a separate franchise not tied into the Nolan stuff. Gives the director more lee way to develop the back story.
I agree, during Dark Knight, I really thought who turned out to be Robin was going to be Terry McGinnis, especially when Bruce Wayne was using that bionic leg thing to help him walk again, the story behind McGinnis was that he stole a bionic batsuit after finding out who Bruce Wayne is to avenge his father’s death. Robin is just a side kick, McGinnis was chosen to become Batman which makes him a far more interesting character and more relative to Bruce Wayne’s reason for becoming Batman, this would be a far better afterlife and could easily be a continuation for Nolan’s story.
Honestly. I don’t necessarily see a reboot as the correct way to go. Great article, but I kind of have a different way of looking at it.
Okay. So. As a huge comic book fan, nothing can give a reader a greater joy than seeing their character being taken over by a new writer/artist. The continuity remains the same and sometimes it can result in a drastic shift in styles, yet we still read on. I think this same mindset can be taken with a new Batman trilogy. Give a director/actors 3 movies to expand on this character. To expand on his story. The great part about it is, THEY can introduce Robin, THEY can bring back the Joker, THEY can do things Nolan would have never done, and it still be true to the source material.
As Amazing Spider-Man is proving, reboots after short amounts of time are not necessarily a good thing. So instead of reboot, they should go the route of the comic book instead. A new vision.
Yes, yes, yes. You’re right, except for one part. Keeping this continuity is a good idea, since this is one hell of a good storyline. But do not, absolutely NOT, bring back the Joker. Not in this continuity. Heath Ledger did an exceptional job on this, bringing the Joker back would, in my opinion, bring Ledger’s Joker down.
The thing about this series is that we are left wanting more. More of the Joker, more of the gritty, realistic Gotham and Batman, more of everything. But we need to be kept wanting more. Ending this series after the third installment is the best they can end it. If they want to keep going with this version of Batman without Nolan and Bale, fine, but leave the past alone, and revisit it in a future franchise. They tried it in 1995/1997 and we had Schumacher’s version (ugh), but that does not mean it’s going to happen again if they go this way once more.
I agree with the anonymous person, it’s time for the Terry McGinnis era to begin, it’s time for a Batman Beyond movie!