Interview: Clive Owen On Killer Elite, Intruders, Whether He Will Ever Direct & More!
Owen was incredibly affable throughout the interview and very interesting as we discuss his new movie Killer Elite in-depth and the current status of his career.
Killer Elite (my review HERE) is the new action packed thriller by first time filmmaker Gary McKendry that was premiered at the Toronto Film Festival. One of the main attractive features of the film is the stellar cast attached. Myself and a few other plucky journos were lucky enough to sit at a round table and interview four people related to the film. Heres 1 of 4. Clive Owen is an actor that started out in theatre, but since has moved into film with a multitude of memorable roles in a vast array of different genres. Not interested in limiting himself in any way, Owen continues his noble quest as being one of the many great British actors who seek to dominate Hollywood. Though, arguably he still may not have eclipsed his work in Children Of Men, Owen has continued to confidently expand his resume and constantly seeks to test himself as an actor. Myself and the other journalists are sitting at a table discussing the craziness of Viggo Mortensen, related to a cool story a sound man told us about The best interview answer hed ever seen (From what he said, and the sheer amount of interviews hes sat through, Im inclined to believe him.) Clive Owen strolls in, and theres a moment of confusion as we werent expecting him just yet. He flashed a smile, perfect enamel (certainly didnt get that done in London, mate) and looking immaculate. I was in a Gojira T shirt (I thought it would be appropriate considering theyre slow, heavy, crushing, representing the destruction of everything in its path sounds like Jason Statham to me!) I made a comment about feeling underdressed and Owen laughed Youre not on camera, guy! What follows is our discussion of theatre, filming action scenes, living in London and Owens interest in moving behind the camera! He was incredibly affable throughout the interview and very interesting. We started off, by jumping straight in and talking about the impressive action scenes featured in Killer Elite (our questions in bold, his responses not); Two of the best fight scenes Ive ever seen in one movie.
(laughs) Great.How hard were the fight scenes? Were there any injuries and what preparation did they take?
There was a lot of preparation, yeah, we had a really great stunt team. So we did the fights and we worked through them and I remember there was a couple of weeks of going in, working with those guys everyday and slowly developing it, making sure that everything was right and that the rhythm was right, and then it was really about bringing it up to speed. So, by the time we came to shoot the film we were ready to go.Was it all you?
Practically all of it, yeah. Gary (McKendry, director) was very keen... and I think hes right about that stuff, because, for me, its not all that different from doing a dialogue scene. Its still acting. Its got to be right and I dont want somebody else doing that for me. I treat it, like I do anything else, you want to make it believable and in a situation like that its intense. Its life or death and you want to commit to it and be the one to do it.Was it only acting or did you have to go through it before the shooting started?
No, we had that two weeks with the stunt guys. Fighting, working, perfecting it, learning some moves from them and then going in there. For me, as I said, I tend to treat it like other scenes in movies in that its got to be believable. You want it to be intense, but believable. So, if theres a situation where Ive got to Come on guys, if I was like this I could do this and you take all the errors out and make it tight and thats what we do.Is there also, perhaps a point of professional pride, because Jason (Statham) is very adamant about doing as much as they will allow him to do in terms of the stunts, so when you know youre in a film with him, does that put you in a position?
I cant remember ever being involved in a fighting movie where I havent done most of it. I enjoy doing that stuff and I think its important, as I say, its an actor thing. Its not dialogue, but the intent and everything has to be right, you know? It doesnt work if somebody else is doing it for you. Not for me.I dont understand the insurance, how do they let you guys do this?
Its safe. You know, the thing is, when youre working with someone like Jason Statham as well, safety is paramount. You know, it is pretty intense and one little thing could have serious consequences, you know? Thats why we prepare and its very much about rhythm and trusting each other and committing to it.Speaking of rhythm, a lot of what I think Gary did, in the editing gives you a sense of pace. I mean, there are times when youre just catching your breath because its just happening so rapidly, but when youre making the film, of course, you cant edit, while youre making it, so, do you have a sense of that breakneck pace and whats going to be? Or does he show you rough cuts?
I think its right what you say, you know, you just play the scenes for what they are and you do them as intensely and committed as you can and then its really the rhythm is dictated by him, as you say... No, you cant foresee that, you know, when youre doing the car stuff, youre doing it beat by beat and section by section and you dont really get an overview of the whole thing until youve seen what hes done and how he and his editor have put it together.I think, its almost akin to doing comedy where youre turning over the timing of the punchline to somebody else.
Youre exactly right. I mean, I think its one of those things I learned way back when I first started doing movies and having trained in theatre is that, its the fundamental difference in acting in the two mediums. Theatre, you dictate the rhythm. If Im in the middle of a big speech on stage I will stop and hold, and take the audience where I want to take them. In a movie, an editor does that, not an actor. You show them, what you think, you would like it to be and say This is where I think the emphasis should be and the rhythm, but they dont have to adhere to that and can take it away and do what they like with it.You dont do theatre anymore?
Not for a while, no. Ive been thinking about going back for a little while now...Your choice? By design? Or simply...
Just because Ive been doing a lot of movies and the plays Ive been offered... You know, its been a while and if I go back I want it to be something Im really passionate about.Why are you thinking to go back to the stage?
Just because, its been a while and I just fancy going back there and re-exploring it and, you know, its just been too long.You say that like you already have something in mind?
No, Ive just been looking, and Ive got my eye out and theres been some stuff floating around... Ive just got to find the right project I guess...In London?
In London, or New York, yeah.I think its very telling, that a lot of the questions are about the action sequences, but youre creating a character and action and fighting and driving is a part of what that character does... Does that get in the way of creating a character when you have to have that physicality?
Its all part of it. Its the same that I treat any scene I shoot. Whether it be a dialogue scene or an action scene, its the same thing. You just still create something and it has to be in character. Its all acting. If youre in the middle of a fight youve got to be able to believe you are in the middle of that fight. Its not just a technical exercise. Its an acting exercise as well.So its not you, its Spike in the middle of that fight?
Of course, yeah.What type of film makes you more happy? Youve done big and small films. Dialogue heavy and action heavy films. Is it all the same to you?
Yes, its all the same to me. I have to say that being equipped with great dialogue is for me, the best thing. Again, because I was trained in the theatre, its all about the language and when you get a great script with great lines to say, its like you have all the equipment to go to work. Im equipped. Ive got everything I need, now its whether I can pull that off. So, good dialogue is very important and also, if you say bad dialogue, it makes you look like a bad actor, however well you do it. (laughs)Of course, I imagine one of the main attractions to this film, was this amazing cast. You, De Niro and Statham. Was this one of the reasons you took on the film?
Of course, yeah. It was an obvious attraction, and you know, I met Gary and I heard his ideas for the film and I liked them, so it was a pretty easy decision for me.I think its been a pretty good year for you, youve worked with Fresnadillo on Intruders, amongst other things. Do you feel its a good year for you?
Yeah, I mean, every year I think Ive been very lucky and Ive done some good stuff... I had a great time with Fresnadillo. Im a big fan of his, I thought 28 Weeks Later was a great movie, a really great movie, and I was a big fan of Intact and I thought he was just great.Intruders is a horror, which is a bit different for you... Is it a change of pace?
Yeah, but its not a conventional horror movie. Its not just a cheap thrill horror, its really quite a cerebral, psychological horror, which Im very comfortable with.What do you make of the source material of this (Killer Elite)? Do you believe that these Feather Men existed? The novel would have us believe that... and its nice to say inspired by true events, but does that help you in creating a character?
No not really, Ive done a number of things now that were based on a true story and based on people, or based on books. Im a great believer that ultimately, films a different medium, as soon as you start transferring a true story and things based on true events; you start having to adapt it really quickly to the medium and a film narrative and thats a very different thing and Im a great believer in that you have to cut off and just play the script. At the end of the day, youre doing something from an epic novel? You cant keep going back to the novel, its going to get frustrating and youre going to go Ok, this is what were doing now, thats its origins, but were making a movie from this script. So I always work like that. It wasnt particularly helpful, for me to use the book, I was much more interested in just playing the role rather than recreating.One of the things I really enjoyed about the film was its internationalism: The way in which the world is connected now in so many ways, not just electronically, but politically and economically. Are you attracted to things that have a complex, realistic background?
Yeah, of course. Its always better than if its simplistic... (laughs)Well, these are all big issues.
Yep, its always, you know... At the end of the day, I think film, a 2 hour piece of pure entertainment, is very valid. I love watching them as much as the next guy, but if its about something then its always better.In terms of Spike and his two different eye colours. The film is set in the 80s and I know you are a big fan of David Bowie...
Yep.Was that a personal homage, or just coincidence?
No, not at all, no. Thats just what the character was thats why he left the SAS and, you know, his backstory is that he was in the middle of this and this happened and he had to leave and hes having a hard time letting go. Hes never really dealt with that and wishes that he was still in there really. And really, the whole thing about that for me was, pitching that whole thing so it was believable, and avoiding all of the obvious things Theres no need to make him ghoulish or anything. It was about making sure it was there and was present, but not intrusive.In the opening of the movie, there is no specified time period, yet there are certain themes that are ever present today. Economic crisis, wars for oil etc. Drawing parallels today, was that deliberate for this movie?
Yeah, I mean, its as relevant now, as it was then, yeah.When you talked about the theatre... It struck me as you miss having some power and a lot of theatrical actors have switched to directing their own films or just getting behind the camera in any way... Is this something you have considered?
Ive thought about directing, but I wouldnt misconstrue what I said about acting in theatre and film, as if I miss the power. I dont miss the power. Im a directors actor. I love working with great directors and I love offering them up... and Im completely comfortable with accepting that its their thing and they have their way of putting it together. That collaboration is what I love. I dont miss the power at all. Im not one of those actors who feels the need to direct the film. I dont want to do that, I want to just do what I can do, to offer what Ive got and let them play with it. Im very comfortable with that. I have thought about directing, yeah, I just... Ive never found a piece of material that Im passionate enough about to stop the whole acting thing, and the time and rhythm of a director is totally different to an actor. Its a much bigger commitment and I only want to do that on something I am truly passionate about.Would you write as well, or just direct?
No, I mean, I always get involved in the scripts Im in, but not really as a writer, Im very good at reading a script and telling you whats right and wrong with it. (laughs)(laughs) Good skill to have.
Ive done that on a whole number of films and sometimes I go to the director and say Look... Im a bit of a logic monster. It has to be logical, it has to add up. Sometimes you read very smart, great scripts, that each individual scene is very witty, very sharp, but they dont track... So, going to act in them, becomes really difficult because they dont really add up... It has to be logical.Youre still based in London?
Yep.Is it because youre a married man?
Yeah, I mean, Ive always lived there and Im very comfortable and happy there.No plans to move somewhere else?
Nope.Thanks Clive Owen for your time!
No problem. Thank you guys. Take care.Killer Elite is in cinema's today. My review HERE.