We all know that there will be an Avengers 3 eventually, and with the news of an Ant Man film directed by Edgar Wright expected within at least the next 3 years, it is a definite that the line-up of Avengers in not only the upcoming sequel, but the third film will be somewhat different than they are today.
It’s my prediction that Iron Man will be killed off in the third film (feel free to disagree) and by this time, another Avenger, for some reason or another will play less of a significant role in the third film of the franchise in order to make way for new characters. By the time Avengers 3 comes around, I predict, that of the core group of Avengers, at least two will be Avengers we have yet to see on screen, and at least another new Avenger will appear in the film somewhere.
Having written two previous articles for WhatCulture looking ahead at the upcoming Avengers sequels (5 Female Avengers We Don’t Want to See and 5 Racially Diverse Avengers We Need to See) I have conducted the following list featuring what I consider are the 5 most likely Avengers we will be seeing in the sequels (some have already been announced) and who are the likely people we will see cast in the roles (based on Marvels previous casting history).
As with my other casting choices (see 7 X-Men that Badly Need Recasting and Who Should Play Them), I’m sure this list will cause somewhat of a controversy, however I am predicting this list will be less controversial than the others have been. But who knows… you tell me.
Here they are, the 5 Avengers we will almost certainly, or at least most likely see somewhere in Avengers 3… and who will most likely be playing the roles.
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I think ur pretty much spot on with these choices Daniel. Only one i dont think you will see in the next Avengers movie / movies is Ms. Marvel. Some great casting choices too, espcially Ant Man, Black Panther and Vision. I think Ant Man and the Wasp are the shoe-ins for A2. Beyond that, Black Panther maybe. Vision? Outside bet but i think Whedon will look to bring Panther in first before Vision.
Yes. I originally didn’t think we’d see Ms Marvel but she appears to be a big fan favorite so she could very well appear somewhere in Avengers 3… most likely a small cameo and first, then maybe her own film in Marvel stage 4… if there is such a thing.
I’m not too sure that Whedon will bring in Black Panther before Vision. Hopefully, but I think Vision is probably easier to bring into this current Avengers universe. I really hope we see Black Panther soon though.
I don’t think we’ll be seeing Ms. Marvel anytime soon…but since Marvel is set on bringing in their cosmic scale with Guardians of the Galaxy it would be a pretty simple thing to introduce the Kree and maybe even throw in a brief scene where you can see Mar-Vell and Danvers interacting.
One thing I think we can trust Whedon on is using his existing characters in a new way rather than trying to cram the universe full of new people.
Yes for sure about Whedon. He has already stated that he wants his Avengers 2 to be much more character driven and much more focus on characters sitting around talking than action scenes all the time (this would have me worried if it was anyone but Whedon). In fact, I think the only reasonhe agreed to doing an Avengers 2 was so he could have this happen and stop some other director ruining his vision. He obviously has something great in mind.
The thing is, seeing as Whedon didn’t really approve to a Guardians of the Galaxy movie, I don’t think he has THAT much power over what new films Marvel decides to bring out.
How on earth can Vision be in the movies and Ms. Marvel can’t? His backstory is so much more complicated than hers. He’s got the brain waves of Wonder Man, who is hated by Whedon, and is coming no where near the cinematic universe. You also have to have Ultron, which we’ve had no hints to.
This makes little to no sense for people saying Ms. Marvel can’t join up.
Cameron… you are right.
Seeing as I know how vocal you’ve been and how much you love Ms Marvel, I was wondering, if you had to cast her in any future sequel… who would you have play her?
Thanks
You actually have a great pic for her. I thought of Claire Danes, as well. And I never thought of Naomi Watts, but I should kick myself, because I think she might be perfect (though her age may present a problem). Other options could be Diane Kruger, Maggie Grace, or Ari Graynor for Ms. Marvel. There’s a big mixed bag there. Kruger’s probably got the whole package, Grace is a bit young, and Graynor may be a bit too busty (a-la Christina Hendricks for Wonder Woman rumors). So, they’re all on my list, but a bit unlikely.
I do like Djimon Hounsou for Black Panther, but Ewan McGregor or Alan Tudyk would be better Hank Pyms in my opinion.
Diane Kruger is a great alternative choice, but I am not a fan of the other two actresses in general, or for the role.
I have heard people suggest Alan Tudyk… but I think he isn’t quite well known enough to head a high profile movie (and probably not considered attractive enough either) but with Joss Whedon attached it is at least in the realms of possibilities. I can’t see Ewan in the role of Ant Man myself, or against the other Marvel characters. I like him as a person and occasionally as an actor though. It would be an interesting, slightly odd pick for sure.
Thanks for replying.
You are the second person to suggest that Benedict Cumberbatch should play Vision.There’s also fancasting of him as Ant-Man in several websites.
I could just about see him as Ant Man… an he is British (as is Edgar Wright) so maybe this could happen. I think he would make a much better Vision though. I can definitely see the actor appearing somewhere in the marvel universe.
I wondered if Paul Bettany might end up as vision in a ‘Tony decides to give Jarvis a body’ kind of thing. Might cause a bit of fan rage but Bettany would suit it quite well.
Cool list.
That does seem like something that Marvel could very well do. Personally, I have never been a fan of Paul Bettany and I think it would definitely cause fan upset, but maybe… unlikely though.
Another great & well thought out article, I really REALLY love your pick for Ms Marvel, although I still believe she’d need her own feature length film to be a feasible addition to the Avengers, which would lead to Captain Marvel. Clare Danes would be perfect for her though, she really is the spit image, although as stated before I’d still prefer The Scarlett Witch & Quicksilver in my fantasy world in which X-Men belong to Marvel again… We can always dream.
I would absolutely love a film with The Vision and I kind of believe Marvel are setting up for it perfectly with Ant Man coming up, they also seem to be heading towards a slightly more sci-fi theme with Thanos, so it could happen. Cumberbatch is a great choice for him, he could really nail an android imo.
Finally, Black Panther! You know how much I agree with you here haha, if he hadn’t have been in Thor, I feel Idris Elba would have been perfect, but your choice is incredible, next best thing for me, but with Elba unavailable, he’s perfect. Like you said, the role should be his, there are no other actors who would look the part or play it as well.
I’m hoping with Ant Man and the link in Iron Man III, Marvel are paving the way for The Vision and The Black Panther. Your hypothesis that Iron Man will be killed off is interesting, they definately would need to make room, and with RDJ coming up to the end of his contract, it could well be him. Also, removing Iron Man from the equation would create a whole new group dynamic ready for new stars. I’m not sure who I think will be killed off yet, but I’m excited for the new Avengers in the future.
PS, just thought, I could imagine Hemsworth or Evans leaving, I think out of all the actors, these would be the two least likely to extend their contracts, as imo they have more to lose from being tied down to the superhero genre.
Thanks for liking the article and liking my choices.
It would be very difficult to imagine The Avengers without Iron Man, but then again, I can’t really even see them doing an Iron Man 4, so my idea is that he will appear in The Avengers 3 (as pretty much the lead) but will be killed… and he won’t have a film out in phase 3. But I am probably wrong.
I think the most likely character other than Iron Man to die is Captain America as Chris Evans almost didn’t take the part because he didn’t want to be tied down to 6 films… it is unlikely that he’d agree to more. Chris Hemsworth is getting more and more famous recently (especially after he appears in Spielberg’s Roboapocalypse, so again, it is unlikely he’d want to do more films after the three Avengers and the three Thor movies.
Still, I think Iron Mans leaving would create a really interesting new dynamic… however I feel that if Marvel do make an Avengers 4, 5 and 6… which I think they should (I also can’t see them deciding to give up on this money making scheme of theirs any time soon that has worked so well for them) then I think the team will consist of mostly new characters (probably lead by Ant Man, Black Panther, Vision and Ms Marvel).
I also think Hulk is a pretty likely candidate for killing off in Avengers 3… I can definitely see Joss Whedon doing this one. In fact, I have almost convinced myself now that this will happen.
RDJ’s potentially leaving the franchise doesn’t bode well. The Marvel movies were really made on his back. But lets not forget we’re talking about Disney here, they’re more than happy to drive a franchise into the ground with a series of horrible straight to dvd releases. So even if RDJ leaves I doubt it’ll be the end of this incarnation of Iron Man and the Avengers.
That being said, if they do manage to successfully put a new actor in the role of Stark they could be able to push the franchise to new levels. Loss of an iconic actor is usually a death bell but we might be seeing the Marvel universe act like the Bond universe. But I admit I don’t have high hopes.
I really doubt they’d cast a new Iron Man… and I personally don’t think, if Iron Man wasn’t in The Avengers 4 (or even 3) it would have that much effect on the box office.
Sure, the movies were arguably made on his back, but now they have so many iconic characters with only more to come that personally, if Iron Man’s last movie was The Avengers 3… which I think it will be, I don’t think by this point I’d miss him in any further sequels.
If he doesn’t die (or even if he does) knowing how much RDJ loves playing Iron Man, it’s likely he would still cameo.
A great article. I especially love the Morena pick for Wasp and Naomi Watts for Captain Marvel. The only one I cant go for is Adrien Brody. Hes a fine actor but doesnt have the likeability as a leading man to carry a solo Antman film. Well done on all the other choices though.
A piece of constructive criticism: You say “If you ask us” three times on just the last page, and its a bit repetitive and distracting.
Ha Ha. Thanks for the liking the article and for the constructive criticism. Noted. By that time in the writing of the article I was probably getting very bored and really wanting to just finish (sick of my own opinions tbh)… but thanks anyway.
I agree with your criticism of Adrien Brody… though I think he would be interesting in the role, the reason I chose him was mainly out of having done my research an realizing he is a likely candidate. The other two likely candidates at the moment are Nathan Fillion and Ewan MacGregor, but they will probably cast someone completely unexpected by the time the film comes around.
Also, Fillion has stated many times he has no desire to be Hank Pym.
Really? I did not know this. I saw an interview saying something along the lines of though he would like to appear in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, he doesn’t think he is famous enough or can’t imagine it happening.
I’m sure though, if he were to be offered the part, he surely wouldn’t turn it down, regardless of whether he really has a desire for the role or not? It would be the biggest gig of his life.
But you obviously know something I don’t. Thanks for this.
how come no Doc Strange? Would prefer to see him + BP over any of the others.
The reason I left Doc Strange off the list was because at the time of writing the article it seemed very likely that Viggo Mortnesen was going to be cast in the role. I am not sure if this was just rumor or if that actually is going to happen, but it seemed too obvious to include in the list at the time.
Using the list you have laid out here, I would say that there are some decent chances for some of them for Avengers 3.
I think you’re spot on with who you think would be a great Wasp, I’ve been behind Morena for a long time.
I’m with Cameron in casting Tudyk as Ant-Man, though Brody is an inspired choice. And as much as I’d love to see Fillion in the role, I have also heard that he doesn’t feel like he’d fit well in it. Barring Tudyk though, I think a left-field choice would be John C. McGinley of Scrubs fame. His serious roles are few and far between, but he’s great.
Holy crap, Claire Danes as Ms. Marvel is brilliant. I had never pictured her before, but she fits. Watts is one I’ve considered, but for me, I’ve always envisioned either Ali Larter (Heroes) or Yvonne Strahovski in the role (Chuck). Those two would make especially good fits if they went the route of introducing the character in the upcoming SHIELD TV series over giving her her own film (which she deserves).
Nothing against Honsou, he’s a fine actor and definitely would fit the role well (he’s my second choice), but ever since seeing Serenity (Joss Whedon, whaaaaat), I have been a staunch supporter of Chiwetel Ejiofor as the Black Panther. In my opinion, HE is the perfect actor who embodies the wisdom AND the power behind T’Challa.
The Vision has always been tricky for me. Especially since his backstory would require, in my opinion, a slew of films. You’d need Ant-Man to introduce Ultron, a either a solo Wonder Man film (please no) or the character’s inclusion in a Ms. Marvel project (please, NO) to get acquainted with him, and then you’d need Ultron to build the Vision in either Ant-Man 2 (unlikely) or an Avengers sequel down the line. Mind you, none of this is saying “The Vision should not be included,” it is just a tricky set-up, even for an Avengers 3. Were he to be included, I’d say the master of all prosthetics should play him, Doug Jones. If you want to give him a famous voice, then really anyone would suffice, but I think Jones’ portrayal of Abe Sapien in Hellboy 2 speaks volumes.
Some interesting opinions here. Thanks for reading and giving your input. Always appreciated.
Your alternative choices for Ms Marvel certainly look the part, although I doubt have the star appeal the character would probably need in order to persuade people to see the film… but yes, if they played her in the Marvel TV Series I could see this working out quite well, especially Yvonne Strahovski… never been a fan of Ali Larter myself.
I’ve also heard people suggest Chiwetel Ejiofor for the role of Black Panther and completely think he would be great in the role… just I think Honsou would be marginally better and deserves it considering his connection with the character. Wesley Snipes was attached to the project about 10 years ago, but this version was never made obviously.
Other than that, I think John C McKinley is too old for Ant Man and certainly wouldn’t really fit the current Avengers cast. A bigger, more respected name is needed.
Thanks again.