10 Horror Movies Ruined By Listening To The Fans

There's no denying how instrumental Tobin Bell was in the early success of the Saw franchise - as antagonist John Kramer, aka Jigsaw, his coolly menacing presence and iconic voice quickly established him as an all-timer horror antagonist - but given that Kramer was revealed to be a terminal cancer patient in the very first Saw, it was fair to say that his days were numbered from the jump.

And indeed, Kramer finally died in Saw III - albeit from a saw-blade to the neck, rather than cancer - at which point the series faced a tough challenge: how to keep Saw going without its feature antagonist.

With the most obvious successor, Amanda (Shawnee Smith), also killed off in Saw III, Saw IV passed the baton to another secret apprentice, Detective Hoffman (Costas Mandylor).

For the rest of the series, Kramer's presence remained through pre-recorded tapes and extensive flashbacks detailing his backstory, until the seventh and apparently final movie appeared to close the lid on Kramer and his legacy altogether.

But when an eighth film, Jigsaw, eventually came together, it appeared to be something of a soft reboot for the franchise, seemingly moving away from Kramer to tell a fresh story.

Yet fans love John Kramer and made it vocally clear they weren't interested in a Saw movie without him, and so Jigsaw turned out to be a partial secret prequel, with Kramer appearing in scenes set before the events of the other films.

More to the point, fans' insatiable desire to keep Kramer around meant that the new Jigsaw, Logan (Matt Passmore), was revealed to be yet another of his secret apprentices, and because that wasn't convoluted enough, he was also the first of them all.

Jigsaw could've just focused on a Jigsaw copycat or even outright soft-rebooted the franchise, but because fans were still thirsty for the O.G. Jiggy more than a decade after his on-screen death, the film was a contrived mess of inept fan service.