Cody Rhodes Opens Up On CM Punk/Elite AEW All Out 2022 Brawl

'The American Nightmare' details his thoughts on "Brawl Out" for the first time.

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Cody Rhodes has spoken candidly and publicly for the first time about the events before, during and after "Brawl Out".

Speaking to Ariel Helwani on the MMA Hour, he said (h/t Wrestling Observer)

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"I had a great relationship with Matt, Nick, and Kenny, still do. It definitely was tested by being young executives, it was tested by having different opinions on wrestling but our different opinions is what made it strong. That's what made us work. I want to do Crockett and old school and they want to do PWG and west coast and damn, I loved it. I liked that, that contention is what made us bond, we're bonded forever because of things we did.

But I also had a great relationship with Punk. He was my dinner buddy. They'd order dinner for me at AEW every week as one of my management perks or whatever. I don't think he knew I always just put it on my tab because I wanted to make sure he was getting something too, salmon or sushi. We didn't talk a lot but [we] had a great realtionship, would sit and chat, and I was so excited to have him back.

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So when I watched it, just from my sitting there. There was some people texting me, I remember, somebody texted me, 'Man, you're the smartest guy in the room.' And I wanted to write back like, 'F you man.' I don't feel that way, I feel this thing we built got damaged.

And I'm not putting any blame on anybody. Sorry, I"m super, super Switzerland on this one. I'm not putting any blame on anybody but I just hated seeing that because as the company grows, and I hope it continues to grow, I hope people remember the mission in the first place, why we were there, and if you bring in people who don't know the mission then things like that can happen. I'm not saying he didn't know the mission or anything of that nature but I was just bummed out, that's how I felt, I was bummed out.

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Building an alternative wrestling promotion is definitely a feather in the cap. I don't want that to be erased, I don't want that to go away.

That was a situation that was so big and heavy, I don't think it was helpful. Maybe you can make it helpful, maybe you can do something with it but that's just how I felt. No heat on Punk, no heat on Matt, Nick, Kenny or Tony, I was just bummed out when I saw. That's not how we envisioned it. The spirit of All In, if you ever lose the spirit, you're lost and I think the spirit was gone in that moment. Doesn't mean you can't get it back but it was just a bummer."

Cody left AEW in February 2022 ahead of a shocking March return to WWE, months before the All Out fight between the warring sides. Cody launched All Elite Wrestling as an Executive Vice President alongside The Young Bucks, Kenny Omega and company president Tony Khan, having built bonds with fellow Bullet Club members after a 2016 arrival on the independent scene.

 
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